Gibson LPJ - Scratches through nitro finish

[dspelman]

The Gibson neck. I don't care how many comparable imports you put next to a Gibson (even the lowest end Gibson like the melody maker), any of us can blindfold ourselves and tell the difference just by running our hands around the neck and across the fretboard.

There is no "Gibson neck." There are over 100 models of the Les Paul alone and there's a wide variety of "Gibson necks" out there. I have a bunch of them. I can tell you without question that my '49 ES-175 has a different neck from my '67 ES-335s or the L5S or the L6S (1 9/16ths" wide at the nut, like a lot of the same-era SGs). I can guarantee you that I can hand you 10 different Gibsons from my stock alone and that those 10 will all have different size necks. And who are "any of us?"

BTW -- I went to school with John Sevier from Sevierville, in Sevier County, TN (around the corner from you) whose great great somebody or other was the first governor of TN and whose grandmother owned (at the time) Bluebell/Wrangler jeans. Seems to me I remember a nearby Maryville...

 

[Sportrider24]

Let me correct myself. I said neck as a whole but was really referring to running your hands across the fretboard.

 

[Sportrider24]

... And you would be correct sir. Maryville is a stones throw away.

 

[dspelman]

Let me correct myself. I said neck as a whole but was really referring to running your hands across the fretboard.

Same deal -- Given the number of guitars with and without binding, the number with ebony vs. rosewood, and dots, blocks, diamonds, traps, "clouds" and whatever those things with the diagonal stripe...inlays, about the only thing I think I could imagine being similar between them is the fretwire. Even there, I've got everything from fretless wonders with nearly no fret at all, skinny-as-hell frets, wider frets, taller frets, some with little or no crowning, some with little or no polish (from the factory, mind you), etc., I'm not at all sure I could identify anything based on the fretboard. With an exception or two. I can identify a couple of my fretboards that have very wide nuts (1 3/4") and jumbo hot-dog shaped nearly perfect highly polished frets. But those aren't Gibsons.

 

[dspelman]

BTW, given some of the comments I've seen on MLP lately, what exactly are we defining as a "quality" guitar? Voggin and some others are willing to call a rather odd assortment of woods recently escaped from a CNC machine with packing crate grain and a barely-there hosing of lacquer, a set of cheap tuners/bridge/electronics and a $600 price tag "quality." A guitar with all the goods of an LP Custom is derided as just having more "bling" for $4K. And when you point out that you can have the full "bling" ride for $400, the gibson standard spec (rosewood, plastic inlays, binding on body and fretboard, gloss finish, etc.) for $225, then elven mythology comes into play with, I dunno, "real" tone coming up from the Bayou or something.

 

[Sportrider24]

Maybe I have a sixth sense. I've played many different guitars in my 15 years of playing and a Gibson fretboard is easily identifiable to me. Especially in the price range of guitar we are referring too.

 

[rjshare]

ds, what are you saying? that lp customs should really cost 200$ or that for 4000$ they should be made of diamonds?

gibson are selling more guitars than ever so whether you like their current line up or not, lots do. dont like em? dont buy em, but for the love of god stf up with your constant whinging about everything to do with the brand. i have a 50s trib and I LIKE IT. what is your problem with what I LIKE?

 

[Electric Funeral]

Fvck it. I'm just gonna sell all my guitars that are made of wood and have finishes and just get an EGC solid aluminum guitar. That way, I won't have to worry about any of this shit.

 

[ARandall]

Dspel - you seem to confuse yourself quite a bit. You use arguments one way and then the same thing another way.

Gibson has to fight against tradition in some areas, but not in others. They have a production line, and a custom shop. Thats 4 different combo's there that can make a difference in price.
Also - there's the scarcity of wood and other raw resources and the additional tariffs involved for certain materials. All of these will change the price, not necessarily the quality.
The long and short of it is, you can get the same guitar made in different ways for vastly different costs. If we had parallel universes where the same bits of wood went through and became a Trad or a R9, I would expect it to have the same tone despite the vast price difference.

 

[closed_PaulSlack]

FFS Guys. Start your own thread. Even the OP hasn't responded this is so far off topic.

 

[Electric Funeral]

FFS Guys. Start your own thread. Even the OP hasn't responded this is so far off topic.

Cut us a little slack, would you Paul?

 

[ice_pick]

Negotiate 20-25% off, pick which one plays best or sounds the best, enjoy your savings.