Gibson Launches "Murphy Lab"

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No thanks. I’ll just keep playing my 2009 “Plek Era” R9. Works for me... ;-)
 

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This whole “stolen valor” argument anti-relic people lean on is incredibly stupid. There is only one place this applies, and we all know what that is about.
Hear, Hear......

There is no better way to show off your insecurity than making that argument. And the haters simply cannot let their opinion be made without making a derogatory reference........let it go

You then point out that you end up in the same position by buying an old secondhand guitar (you didn't 'earn' any of the scars this way either) and suddenly its like crickets and tumbleweed.
 

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I still want someone to tell me...

...typically we judge "vintage" instruments by the quality of finish, etc. So, in 30 or so years, how do we tell if a "relic" guitar is still "mint" and holds it's value as a "vintage" collector piece? Do we take digital photos of it as soon as it arrives, and later hope that they will still use digital photos in 30 years? Or do we document a "relic" with digital photos we print out at Walmart detailing every scratch, smudge, and finish blem put there from the factory on purpose?

I think what we are going to find out in 30 years is that since there is absolutely no way to prove a beat up, thrashed and "relic" guitar is anything but a beat up thrashed guitar... your extra money paid will depreciate the second you cross the threshold of the music store, paying new price for one... Plus, in 30 years, if they judge "vintage" instrument by finish quality, it will be valued as a beat up thrashed guitar...

It seems like doctors and lawyers trying yo buy a guitar and play the wanna be role as if they actually put all those miles on an instrument. Could maybe call them "liar's guitars."

That's my take on this whole stupid trend, anyways.

I think what the marketing gurus at these companies have figured out that people have more money than brains...

...typically, IMHO, these same doctors and lawyers would get more bang for their buck spending the extra cash on some good lessons, maybe even some lessons teaching you how to tune the guitar... because paying extra for a beat up and thrashed guitar doesn't give you anymore talent... just a way to brag to strangers on the Internet...

My 2 cents...

I'd like to see the day when they start selling "relic" Ferraris and Porsches. marketing text might go like... "When you sit in the seat it feels like 100 people have planted their ass and farted in that same seat... it has a "comfy" groove to it, with the numbers partly worn off of the smooth feeling shifter, and the clutch, accelerator and brake pedals with that "worn in" feel as rubber has been worn off on a professional Al Unser Jr. Indy 500 Car rubber pedal PLEK machine... or you can opt to have the "#3 Intimidator NASCAR" brake/accelerator and clutch pedal package installed at no extra charge... ...as you look out the partially shattered windshield that simulates a car well broken in...
So you can’t afford one then? Lol

OK, I’ll play if you are really looking for a serious response.
Your whole basis of reasoning above for the trend and people that buy them being stupid is money/value/future market value. Not everyone gives a shit about what their guitar will be worth 30 years from now, Einstein. I would venture to say that most guitars sold, aged or otherwise, aren’t looked upon or purchased for investment purposes. I know mine aren’t, which addresses your next bitch....

Doctors and lawyers getting “bang for their buck”. Lol. I have owned AT LEAST 30 of these guitars. Some I bought new, some used....never lost a dime on one, and, by the way, I am a salesman, not a doctor or lawyer. I also gig them. I also know several members here, very few if any doctors and lawyers, who gig them, and use them for tools of their trade regularly.

So now that I have shot all of your stereotypes and theories to hell, you might begin to realize a thing or two. It’s perfectly fine to not like something....to each their own for sure. But ya kinda look like an asshole when you come in spouting off that people are stupid just because they like something you don’t. Kind of like when you shit on the guys NGD thread with his Black Beauty. There is a pattern here....I hate KISS, but two of my best friends like them. I’ve never accused them of being stupid (my friends that is, KISS IS definitely stupid lol).

As far as other things being “relic’d”....how about furniture. Is everyone that buys distressed furniture stupid too? Asking for a friend.
 
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So you can’t afford one then? Lol

OK, I’ll play if you are really looking for a serious response.
Your whole basis of reasoning above for the trend and people that buy them being stupid is money/value/future market value. Not everyone gives a shit about what their guitar will be worth 30 years from now, Einstein. I would venture to say that most guitars sold, aged or otherwise, aren’t looked upon or purchased for investment purposes. I know mine aren’t, which addresses your next bitch....

Doctors and lawyers getting “bang for their buck”. Lol. I have owned AT LEAST 30 of these guitars. Some I bought new, some used....never lost a dime on one, and, by the way, I am a salesman, not a doctor or lawyer. I also gig them. I also know several members here, very few if any doctors and lawyers, who gig them, and use them for tools of their trade regularly.

So now that I have shot all of your stereotypes and theories to hell, you might begin to realize a thing or two. It’s perfectly fine to not like something....to each their own for sure. But ya kinda look like an asshole when you come in spouting off that people are stupid just because they like something you don’t. Kind of like when you shit on the guys NGD thread with his Black Beauty. There is a pattern here....I hate KISS, but two of my best friends like them. I’ve never accused them of being stupid (my friends that is, KISS IS definitely stupid lol).

As far as other things being “relic’d”....how about furniture. Is everyone that buys distressed furniture stupid too? Asking for a friend.
What about faded, ripped jeans?

Distressed leather belts? Or boots?

They’ve been around since the 80s. They SELL because people like certain things “broken in”.
 

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Has anyone gotten any more credible information about what the program will actually produce? I've gotten a little heavy in my collection overall in the past year and really need to sell a couple of something. Part of me wants to sell a Murphy because they usually go pretty easy and I can sell one vs. 2 or 3 lower priced guitars. On the flip side, my gut tells me to hang on to everything Murphy until more details emerge. I still feel like they'll either be: 1) astronomically expensive or 2) "Team-made" and not true Murphy work. He's gotta' retire completely at some point, right?
 

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If Gibson goes along at their usual pace, they’ll have details and this program up and running next October...
 

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Has anyone gotten any more credible information about what the program will actually produce? I've gotten a little heavy in my collection overall in the past year and really need to sell a couple of something. Part of me wants to sell a Murphy because they usually go pretty easy and I can sell one vs. 2 or 3 lower priced guitars. On the flip side, my gut tells me to hang on to everything Murphy until more details emerge. I still feel like they'll either be: 1) astronomically expensive or 2) "Team-made" and not true Murphy work. He's gotta' retire completely at some point, right?

Even if Murphy does retire there are enough of his work out there to not make them "exclusive". I would not worry about resale IMO. Murphy aged or not does not really mean much today. Most care about the top and how the guitars sound and play over any "Murphy" these days.

The "Murphy" thing has been done so much over the years that it does not mean much anymore IMO.
 

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I would bet these units will be the highlight of GCS at this years NAMM event.
 

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I still want someone to tell me...

...typically we judge "vintage" instruments by the quality of finish, etc. So, in 30 or so years, how do we tell if a "relic" guitar is still "mint" and holds it's value as a "vintage" collector piece? Do we take digital photos of it as soon as it arrives, and later hope that they will still use digital photos in 30 years? Or do we document a "relic" with digital photos we print out at Walmart detailing every scratch, smudge, and finish blem put there from the factory on purpose?

I think what we are going to find out in 30 years is that since there is absolutely no way to prove a beat up, thrashed and "relic" guitar is anything but a beat up thrashed guitar... your extra money paid will depreciate the second you cross the threshold of the music store, paying new price for one... Plus, in 30 years, if they judge "vintage" instrument by finish quality, it will be valued as a beat up thrashed guitar...

It seems like doctors and lawyers trying yo buy a guitar and play the wanna be role as if they actually put all those miles on an instrument. Could maybe call them "liar's guitars."

That's my take on this whole stupid trend, anyways.

I think what the marketing gurus at these companies have figured out that people have more money than brains...

...typically, IMHO, these same doctors and lawyers would get more bang for their buck spending the extra cash on some good lessons, maybe even some lessons teaching you how to tune the guitar... because paying extra for a beat up and thrashed guitar doesn't give you anymore talent... just a way to brag to strangers on the Internet...

My 2 cents...

I'd like to see the day when they start selling "relic" Ferraris and Porsches. marketing text might go like... "When you sit in the seat it feels like 100 people have planted their ass and farted in that same seat... it has a "comfy" groove to it, with the numbers partly worn off of the smooth feeling shifter, and the clutch, accelerator and brake pedals with that "worn in" feel as rubber has been worn off on a professional Al Unser Jr. Indy 500 Car rubber pedal PLEK machine... or you can opt to have the "#3 Intimidator NASCAR" brake/accelerator and clutch pedal package installed at no extra charge... ...as you look out the partially shattered windshield that simulates a car well broken in...


No. 'VINTAGE' of anything is what is referred to the best examples/golden age of whatever. Vintage gibson les paul = 52-62. Period. That's when the best examples were made. A 1975 pancake orange custom is not 'vintage' just because it's 45yrs old. Old yes...Vintage no. The term is used way too loosely to describe old shit. My friend's old 1991 studio isn't 'vintage' its just an old guitar. But if GC or any store got a hold of it, they'd list it as 'vintage' since it's 29yrs old and charge extra for it.
 

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You won't have to do that Subterfuge I'll sell you my 93 R9 first year then all will be good. How's $16.5 sound.
 

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no...they read this thread.....!
 

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The launch was aborted.
 

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