From wrap-around to bridge + stopbar

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Hi folks.

I have an SG with just the wrap-around stopbar.
I'm considering adding some kind of tremolo / vibrola.
My preference goes to one of the meastro vibrolas. Or maybe some sort of tailpiece that doesn't require extra drilling.

In any case the wrap around needs to be replaced with some sort of bridge to set intonation.
I think there might be an issue with the way the bridge is drilled for. On this kind of setup, the wraparound is perfectly paralel with the pickup, while with a bridge + tailpiece the bridge is not paralel.
Anyone know if this can be compensated with a bridge with enough room for the saddles to move or does it need new holes drilled?
 

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Interesting, but not sure if I like to look of that.

I was going for this look:



But just using the wraparound as a bridge is a possible idea.
I'd rather go with the actual TOM bridge with individual saddles.

Anyone know if it will work?

I have the situation on the right picture:

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If you wanna go with a tune o matic bridge you need to fill the holes from the wrap around and drill for abr studs. The studs need to be in the right place cause you dont have as much movement in the saddles as you do with the set screws on the back of a wrap around.
 

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If you wanna go with a tune o matic bridge you need to fill the holes from the wrap around and drill for abr studs. The studs need to be in the right place cause you dont have as much movement in the saddles as you do with the set screws on the back of a wrap around.
Thanks, that was exactly my question.
 

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why does it have to have adjustable saddles? Does it not intonate with the current WA tailpiece?


If it doesn't, then you could always get a WA tailpiece that adjusts. I've had a few, but hated them all, that and they're ugly as sin, but to each their own. I have found the higher end WA tailpieces from vendors really do work better in the intonation department.

for a no drill trem, I'd look at a B6 with B3 hinge plate and either Towner/Vibramate adapter. Held on by the strap button and the tension of the strings, and if you want to take it off or don't like it, no one would be the wiser.
 

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I always liked the bigsby but not on a SG.
Anyway the main concern is the bridge at this point and how to make it work with a trem.
I don't need the tune o matic perse but I much prefer the look of a regular bridge + trem because the look of keeping the original wraparound as some sort of bridge looks weird to me.

Back in the 70's they had this solution:
 

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I have one of these:



So I guess you get why I'm after the look with the meastro
 

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Don't forget the ebony board ;)
Weird guitar aint it.
 

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I have one of these:



So I guess you get why I'm after the look with the meastro
again, would NOT drill that, which is your only option it seems since you don't want to keep the wraparound. Have you ever played a maestro? they have a love/hate relationship. I did this to a LP since I don't have a SG at the moment, but I have a feeling as soon as I get one it will make a move, then probably with a DTs cover to complete the "look."
 

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Just get an Original Collection SG Standard with a Maestro and save yourself the trouble! :p

Then you will have 2 guitars that retain some sort of value instead of one that you are out of pocket on, between the diminished value and the cost involved to do the work.

JMHO.
 
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I have one of these:



So I guess you get why I'm after the look with the meastro
do not drill this....what year?....wait a minute what is that? i do like the look of the maestro but i dont know :dunno:
 
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I'd like to prevent any drilling if possible. If drilling is involved I'll just keept it as is.

This guitar always has people confused but it's just a SG Goddess in 'ice burst'
 

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Derick Trucks option
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unless you actually want a Maestro. They dont stay in tune, which is why Derick came up with this.
 

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I'd like to prevent any drilling if possible. If drilling is involved I'll just keept it as is.

If you want to try something wacky, you could rig a type of floating TOM bridge. To keep it from moving around, you could make the base with llittle wooden pegs that go into the bushing holes. This way, you can have your TOM and it's totally reversible.
 

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I've never used a vibrato on a lightning bridge, but It seems like the strings would glide over it better than they would on a TOM.
 


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