From the Educated Idiot files:

[Skintaster]

Way back in the day, when I was a badge-carrying Federal Special Agent, folks used to invite us in to chat with all of their "Lewis Carroll Society" magazines on the coffee table...

As if we didn't know.

These folks are weirdos, and there is no amount of logical, reasoning conversation to be had about why or how they do the things that they do.

The really weird ones are the ones who truly do not understand that there is anything wrong with the whole deal.

Lewis Carroll Society?

 

[River side]

Lewis Carroll Society?

This was back before there was an internet.

You prolly shouldn't want to know.

 

[Skintaster]

This was back before there was an internet.

You prolly shouldn't want to know.

Well, I'm obviously familiar with Lewis Carroll... Heck I had to do a college research paper on the guy a few semesters ago, but I didn't know there were pedos that had formed some sort of "society" around him.

And yes, I'm familiar with some of his creepier interests.

I thought NAMBLA was the only public advocacy group for these perverts.

 

[Tim Fezziwig]

He thought he was ABOVE the rules of man. He reminds me of John Wayne Gacy . He was ANGRY when the cops were staking him out. "HOW DARE THEY".

This fool "got off" on his POWER! When I was young I liked Drinking booze right under my parents nose. I would fill up a Big Gulp cup with booze and sit in my living room getting DRUNK! It is a SICK APPLEHEAD game. I'm going to SIN right under your nose.

 

[SKATTERBRANE]

Well, I'm obviously familiar with Lewis Carroll... Heck I had to do a college research paper on the guy a few semesters ago, but I didn't know there were pedos that had formed some sort of "society" around him.

And yes, I'm familiar with some of his creepier interests.

I thought NAMBLA was the only public advocacy group for these perverts.

I certainly do not know much about Lewis Carrol, but Wikipedia lends the thought that his reputation may have been one of cultural misunderstanding:

"The 'Carroll Myth'

Since 1999 a group of scholars, notably Karoline Leach and Hugues Lebailly plus Sherry L. Ackerman, John Tufail, Douglas Nickel and others, argue that what Leach terms the 'Carroll Myth' has wildly distorted biographical perception of his life and his work. Leach's book, In the Shadow of the Dreamchild, raised a considerable amount of controversy. In brief the claim is that:
In general terms Dodgson's life has been simplified and 'infantilised' by a combination of inaccurate biography and the longstanding unavailability of key evidence, which allowed legends to proliferate unchecked.
By the time the evidence did become available the 'mythic' image of the man had become so embedded in scholastic and popular thinking it remained unquestioned, despite the fact the evidence failed to support it.
If the evidence is examined dispassionately it shows many of the most famous legends about the man (e.g. his 'pedophilia', and his exclusive adoration of small girls) are untrue, or at least grossly simplified.[52]

In more detail, Lebailly has endeavoured to set Dodgson's child-photography within the "Victorian Child Cult", which perceived child-nudity as essentially an expression of innocence. Lebailly claims that studies of child nudes were mainstream and fashionable in Dodgson's time and that most photographers, including Oscar Gustave Rejlander and Julia Margaret Cameron, made them as a matter of course. Lebailly continues that child nudes even appeared on Victorian Christmas cards, implying a very different social and aesthetic assessment of such material. Lebailly concludes that it has been an error of Dodgson's biographers to view his child-photography with 20th or 21st century eyes, and to have presented it as some form of personal idiosyncrasy, when it was in fact a response to a prevalent aesthetic and philosophical movement of the time.

Leach's reappraisal of Dodgson focused in particular on his controversial sexuality. She argues that the allegations of paedophilia rose initially from a misunderstanding of Victorian morals, as well as the mistaken idea, fostered by Dodgson's various biographers, that he had no interest in adult women. She termed the traditional image of Dodgson "the Carroll Myth".[53] She drew attention to the large amounts of evidence in his diaries and letters that he was also keenly interested in adult women, married and single, and enjoyed several scandalous (by the social standards of his time) relationships with them. She also pointed to the fact that many of those he described as "child-friends" were girls in their late teens and even twenties.[54] She argues that suggestions of paedophilia evolved only many years after his death, when his well-meaning family had suppressed all evidence of his relationships with women in an effort to preserve his reputation, thus giving a false impression of a man interested only in little girls. Similarly, Leach traces the claim that many of Carroll's female friendships ended when the girls reached the age of 14 to a 1932 biography by Langford Reed.[55]

The concept of the Carroll Myth has produced polarised reactions from Carroll scholars. In 2004 Contrariwise, the Association for new Lewis Carroll studies.[56] was established, and those such as Carolyn Sigler and Cristopher Hollingsworth have joined the ranks of those calling for a major reassessment. But the concept of the Myth has been opposed by some leading Carroll scholars, in particular Morton N. Cohen and Martin Gardner (their comments, and those of more positive reviewers, can be found on Karoline Leach's own page). Biographer Jenny Woolf, while agreeing that Carroll's image has been comprehensively misrepresented in the past, believes that this can be attributed partly to Carroll's own behaviour and in particular his tendency to self-caricature in later life[57]"

 

[River side]

Misunderstanding or not, he had the rep among certain low-lifes a while ago.

 

[Skintaster]

Misunderstanding or not, he had the rep among certain low-lifes a while ago.

I just didn't realize that creepy pedophiles had rallied around him, or had a society dedicated to the guy.

The only people I've ever encountered that had a fixation on the man, were (Mostly female) individuals with an interest in 19th century literature.

 

[BillB1960]

I just didn't realize that creepy pedophiles had rallied around him, or had a society dedicated to the guy.

The only people I've ever encountered that had a fixation on the man, were (Mostly female) individuals with an interest in 19th century literature.

I'd suggest you do a little research on both the Lewis Carroll Society and the Lewis Carroll Society of North America before jumping to any conclusions. They have absolutely nothing to do with pedophilia.

 

[Skintaster]

I'd suggest you do a little research on both the Lewis Carroll Society and the Lewis Carroll Society of North America before jumping to any conclusions. They have absolutely nothing to do with pedophilia.

Thanks!

I wanted to, but after River Side's comment didn't want to go searching for them to find out it's a front for pedophiles.

 

[BillB1960]

Thanks!

I wanted to, but after River Side's comment didn't want to go searching for them to find out it's a front for pedophiles.

Understand completely, I had a little trepidation myself which is why a took a few precautions before googling.

 

[Thundergod]

Smith has been charged with possession of child pornography. He was also
ordered to stay off the Internet, unless it’s for business purposes.

seeing the shape the world's in and the current state of popular moral and ethics, I bet he's gonna find a loophole in the law where he'll be able to surf the net for child pornography because "he's making money out of it".




Some people are so stupid. Ok he's a sick idiot, he is also ignorant, but does he have to be so stupid as to be watching such sick stuff on an airplane? How did this guy make it to "professor"?

 

[River side]

Thanks!

I wanted to, but after River Side's comment didn't want to go searching for them to find out it's a front for pedophiles.

Well, that was some time ago.

I also attended a few FBI briefings about Nigerian financial scams, but I suppose that's all changed by now, too.

 

[SKATTERBRANE]

Understand completely, I had a little trepidation myself which is why a took a few precautions before googling.

Yeah, I didn't want to pull a Pete Townshend either!

 

[Skintaster]

Well, that was some time ago.

I also attended a few FBI briefings about Nigerian financial scams, but I suppose that's all changed by now, too.

Actually, as hard as it is to believe that people still fall for them, variations of the Nigerian scam are very alive and well!

 

[SteveGangi]

You get turned on by lolcat pics?

CW

No, but they won't get anyone arrested either. You scare me

 

[cwness]

No, but they won't get anyone arrested either. You scare me

I just couldn't say no. The temptation was to great.

CW

 

[danohat]

I prefer Googlin' boobs.