- May 2, 2009
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This goes way beyond guitars, look what people pay for 70s and 80s cars now. Which let's be frank were pretty much shit as far as quality goes. People will like what they like.
hardly, the cost of exotic woods and skilled labour keeps going up every year so depending on the woods, components and skilled labour involved a $10k+ guitar is not something that out of the ordinary these days...is insane
We're not even talking vintage models here (which is also insane, because at end of the day it's just an old guitar and any "relicing" in reality is the finish falling apart), but guitars for 10 grand and up just because they're some kind of "limited edition"
Anyone who would pay that kind of money for an instrument had better have a charity in their name
hardly. I travel to to Myanmar (burma) a few times a year and $140 won’t get you very far at all these days let alone feed and educate and shelter someone for an entire year. Maybe not even a monthPerspective.
Having any guitar at all would be considered a lofty luxury by much of the world's population.
A $140 for a used low end Epiphone could feed, shelter and educate a pre-teen child in Burma for a full year.
In late 58, Ol' Man Gibson went down to the crossroads and sold his soul to the devil for a special run of Les Pauls. Whether they are good or they are disappointing, doesn't matter, they bring fame and fortune. Most of the artists you listed are known today because of the monkey's paw deal that Gibson made. Just about any huge band had a guy who had one, even if it isn't his number 1. It's a semi-requirement to get on the charts. Sometimes, even players like Kirk Hammett get on the charts with a song like Whiskey In The Jar, which he recorded using Greeny, which was used on the original Thin Lizzy recording of Whiskey In The Jar, too, not to mention what all it had done for Peter Green by that point. Look at the list of top 100 bands, pretty much 80 of them had a 59 LP in the group, sometimes the same one between groups. They're bless/cursed for some reason.Speaking of Clapton, Page, Bloomfield, etc. and their '59 bursts, how can any of us be so sure that these were such great guitars? They were certainly great musicians, and they were playing some of the best instruments available at the time. How many of us have actually had a 1959 burst in our hands? How can we be so sure that there is some kind of "magic" in these rare birds? How much of that hallowed sound is due to the amplification of the late 60s and early 70s? We can't go back and see for ourselves, and most of us can't afford to spend the equivalent of a McMansion just to find out. I have read a number of books on Gibson Les Pauls, and have read more than once that a number of the 1958-60 Les Paul Standards are disappointing when played.
CivoLee, I am right with you on this subject. Modern, reasonably priced guitars are just fine with me. More options are available than ever before in terms of tonewoods, hardware and electronics. (I'll bet Jimi would have loved to have a double-locking Floyd Rose on his guitar!). And, though I have a few pawnshop guitars, I prefer nice, shiny new stuff without somebody else's sweat and dirt all over it.
easy son.i pay less now for gear,because i'm old(and wiser,i hope).It's insane what people are paying for guitars just because they are "old."
That's the great thing about free will. I don't want anyone telling me how to spend my money.I get that people can spend their own money however they want, it just upsets me that they would choose to spend it on something that can only be of use to one person (or a series of owners over several years), meanwhile there are people starving in the first world
The only reason dealers can charge those kinds of prices is that there are people who will pay them
We should all start offering no more than the current MSRP of a new Standard on 1959 bursts, and when the dealers say "but it's a rare collector's item, they don't make them like this anymore", we can hit them back with "it's only rare because they didn't sell very many of them when they were new and Gibson wouldn't have started making them again if not for Clapton et al, and they don't make them like that anymore is because they've found better ways to make them"
You know, the awful truth
This.One mans disposable income for a week can be another's living income for a year.
You need to play in the sand box that's right for you.
That’s not what he meant. And a guy who winds premium boutique pickups is very much in favour of people who can afford to spend a few dollars on something they love.Can you please explain why feel the need to to try and cast guilt on people for spending a large amount of money on something they love? I have spent a thousands on my guitars and for real it is not anyone's damn business what or how much of my hard earned money I spend on anything. Let alone try cast guilt for doing so.
For 18 years I have been walking into a job that does not guarantee I will walk out of and yes...I get paid very well to do so. My family is well taken care and want for nothing. But I had my blood spilled at my job to make sure they are taken care of.
So if spending a few thousands on something that will help me to forget about life for a little while makes me wrong...then I will never be right. And if people think that they should give to charity in stead of spending money on a guitar...find a different forum. Stop hating on the people that can afford to spend a few dollars on something they love. Stop hating people.
We know the mafia uses art to hide money. I bet they do the same with 59 LPs.Disclaimer: I have no need for a five figure guitar, the only vintage stuff I love is four figures, like 60s Jags, Mustangs and my 68 Gretsch.
Having said that I do believe that once you get a good guitar over a certain age your money is safe, it's not going anywhere. Enjoy it for a few years then break even / make a profit.
I can either keep my money in the bank or have it slung round my neck, I choose the latter, well, some of it anyway