First *Vintage* Guitar Day: 1966 SG Special "PLAYER"!

mr. moon

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Wheeeewwwwww!!!

I have made my first vintage guitar purchase: a 1966 SG Special!!!! Definitely player's grade, but dripping with mojo! Recently had a pro refret, so it plays "like butter" and the sound! Man, I finally get what people are talking about with vintage instruments. Resonates like crazy. War Pigs tone for days!

More pics will be on the way, but here are a couple to start with.


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Very cool. Nothing like a P90 equipped SG. Tone machines
 

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Moar pics!!!!

As a player, she's rough around the edges, but such a joy to play and really inspires me. I usually determine if a guitar inspires me enough to keep it by whether or not I write a song using it within the first week. The first song came to me within hours of monkeying around with this one!

It's been routed for a humbucker in the bridge position, which could come in handy at some point. Has period-correct pickups (not sure if original or not), bridge intonation mod, replacement Grover tuners, and all original wiring with the exception of the bridge volume pot. The finish is checked nicely and the body is a single slab of wood.

 

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That's the first time I've seen a bridge modified that way. Honestly, it's pretty clever!
Same here!

So, here's a question for anyone here:
Should I connect a ground wire from one of the pots to the solder point in the wiring (in green circle)?
 

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Same here!

So, here's a question for anyone here:
Should I connect a ground wire from one of the pots to the solder point in the wiring (in green circle)?
why?...looks like the ground wire is connected already up where the pup wiring rolls out?

is it humming and is it a ground wire...wouldnt hurt if you think its a ground and its humming
 

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Wow. Those are some very livable issues. Congrats on a GREAT guitar!
 

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why?...looks like the ground wire is connected already up where the pup wiring rolls out?

is it humming and is it a ground wire...wouldnt hurt if you think its a ground and its humming
No ground wire is connected to the metal cavity directly, so was wondering if that may assist with noise/hum elimination.
 

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No ground wire is connected to the metal cavity directly, so was wondering if that may assist with noise/hum elimination.
im not sure but is it humming? do the old "hands on hands off "and humming goes away when you touch the strings test?

all my guitars are quiet as an ant fart, but i play at very low bedroom levels most times

i dont have any cavity shields except in an old 67 EBO bass i will check to see if they grounded the plate at all...
 

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Yeah, there is some noise, more than my other guitars which all have humbuckers. Increased noise most likely at least partially due to difference between humbuckers and P90's, but just wanted to see how these were wired from the factory.

Actually, just did a google image search for it and it looks like they did not have a lead running from the plating to any pots or anything, so I think I will just assume that someone did that after the fact and not worry about it.
 

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try it as it cant hurt..here is the bass cavity doesnt look like any additional plate grounding

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:dude:Congrats! Nice axe
Thanks! :jam:

Thus far I have put a new WD pickguard on it to replace the warped original, and swapped out the old Grover tuners with a new set of Grover locking tuners. All the tuner shafts were sloppy on the old ones, and it was pretty much a very easy replacement swap that required minimal work. Seems more resonant now, but that's probably just expectation bias rearing its ugly head...
 

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The pickguard doesn't affect tone, but sloppy tuner posts can. The tighter everything is for the strings from the TP to the tuner posts, the better.
 

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The pickguard doesn't affect tone, but sloppy tuner posts can. The tighter everything is for the strings from the TP to the tuner posts, the better.
Agreed on all points. I was more concerned about the pickguard physically catching on something and getting ripped off the guitar, it was that warped. The new one is seated properly and causes me no concern getting caught on anything. I did pick up a pigtail bridge for it, but not sure if I will install it or not, as it's intonated really well with the original bridge and "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", right?
 

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Agreed on all points. I was more concerned about the pickguard physically catching on something and getting ripped off the guitar, it was that warped. The new one is seated properly and causes me no concern getting caught on anything. I did pick up a pigtail bridge for it, but not sure if I will install it or not, as it's intonated really well with the original bridge and "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", right?
Screw that old pickguard down to a scrap piece of wood or similar flat + stiff surface before you store it away! You'd be amazed how quickly those old pickguards will shrink and warp when not tacked down at the corners by their mounting screws. If you leave it loose in a parts drawer, there's a really good chance you'll find it's shrunk too far to ever reattach if you go to sell the guitar in a few years.
 




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