First build, LP Junior DC - maybe with a twist

[DoneOne]

looking great.

a little late since you've already routed, but these came out while was MIA for a few years:

'56 Quiet Coil P-90 Dogear Pickup

Click here for current lead times Vintage P-90's from the 50's were very special because of their vocal and dynamic qualities, with bold highs that breathe with clarity. The only problem was the 60-cycle hum and for today's player, 60-cycle hum can be unbearable at times. Mojotone's patent...

www.mojotone.com

also a higher wound version due to demand.

the magnets are standing on their sides on either side of the poles... the 2 windings are on the magnets themselves.

 

[axis2]

looking great.

a little late since you've already routed, but these came out while was MIA for a few years:

'56 Quiet Coil P-90 Dogear Pickup

Click here for current lead times Vintage P-90's from the 50's were very special because of their vocal and dynamic qualities, with bold highs that breathe with clarity. The only problem was the 60-cycle hum and for today's player, 60-cycle hum can be unbearable at times. Mojotone's patent...

www.mojotone.com

also a higher wound version due to demand.

the magnets are standing on their sides on either side of the poles... the 2 windings are on the magnets themselves.

Thanks, I'll check them out when it's time for my next junior. They are also technically humbuckers? I've got the Fralin's in my 1965 SG special (it had Bare Knuckles P90s when I bought it) and they sonund really good, like a mix of P90 and a good PAF. In this build I wanted to try my own tweaks to the junior concept to see where it goes. I'll probably go for more historical correct the next time even if that will be neck through too.

 

[DoneOne]

They are also technically humbuckers?

They certainly work on the same principle, though I don't know that I'd call them humbuckers anymore than I'd call sidewinders HBs. Whereas sidewinders have the bottom/top of the coil facing the poles, these are standing upright such that only one side of the coil (wrapped around the bar magnet) is next to the poles.

jumping to the 9:30 mark in this vid shows the basic design in a start quite coil pup.

disclaimer - I've not heard one in person.

touted as being voiced as a 56 P90. I think I might have preferred one voiced as a mid 7k 57 for a more even sound. This 56 voicing seems to favor the mids a bit (though it might just be the playing in the vids on that page)... which could, of course, be compensated for through an amp.

as you know, it's all a matter of taste. The overwound they now offer hits hard with more low end, but lacks the versatility. While you could clean it up and get a HB lke sound out of either, I wouldn't confuse either for a HB.... definite P90 sound there.

speaking of taste, I've posted it before... the 57 at the beginning of this vid is my ideal.

 

[axis2]

Thanks, that sounds fantastic! Now I must be off for work but I will check these clips and others about the mojotones tonight.

 

[axis2]

There is sure a whole lot of nice sounds to be tweaked out of a junior!

Here's a song I wrote 30+ years ago and recorded six years ago where my 1965 SG Special and my Boogie Mk II B works out a bit. Quite saturated, but I like the honkyness. Just skip to 2:50 for the solo or enjoy some post punk in Swedish

Crompojkarna - Mitt lilla monster och jag

[edit] This is just an example how the Lindy Fralin's Hum Cancelling P90s can sound. [/edit]

 

[DoneOne]

2:50 for the solo or enjoy some post punk in Swedish

fwiw... I understood the lyrics about as well as I do when they're british... meaning not at all - heh


sounds great... you might want to check out the vids for their over-wound quiet coils too.

 

[axis2]

fwiw... I understood the lyrics about as well as I do when they're british... meaning not at all - heh

It's really deep lyrics about your inner monster or demon that pops up every now and then

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sounds great... you might want to check out the vids for their over-wound quiet coils too.
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Thanks, I will probably go for the overwound version, that one cleaned up nice too! Or not... I will have to listen to the clips a few hundred times first before I can decide...

 

[axis2]

Ok, enough of talking about the future, here comes the rest of the story.

Time for finishing, this is after the first treatment that is just pigment and solvent.

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About two weeks later and another two bottles of base coat, two plus five layers, and one bottle of top coat, four layers, I decided it was enough. You let each layer dry for 24 h except for the top coat, then it’s 48 h f you have the gloss version. As you see it’s not mirror-like at all and I didn’t use pore filler so it has a very woody feel to it that I like.

I will make an inlay on the headstock when my routing template arrives.

Regarding the bridge I used a Gotho tail piece (GE101A-T) that has the right profile and is light weight. I drilled and threaded and used M3 stop screws, it works fine! Of course I could have went with a Pigtail but this was half the cost and I’m really pleased. The bar weights 30 grams and that is what they did in the days as I understand.

In the end I’m very happy with the guitar, both how it looks and how it plays! It weighs in at 2986 grams or 6.584 lbs and is loud and clear played without an amp. With an amp it cleans up like the juniors i the demos, I got some good CTS pots measuring 520 to 540 k ohms and used those with the higher values for volume and the rest for tone. I have a .022 uF PIO cap so it will never be that muddy but since I never go that low with the tone it’s enough range for me. As mentioned above I use the bridge pup of my SD Seth Lover set in this one and it sounds really nice.

 

[SlingBlader]

Ok, enough of talking about the future, here comes the rest of the story.

Time for finishing, this is after the first treatment that is just pigment and solvent.

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About two weeks later and another two bottles of base coat, two plus five layers, and one bottle of top coat, four layers, I decided it was enough. You let each layer dry for 24 h except for the top coat, then it’s 48 h f you have the gloss version. As you see it’s not mirror-like at all and I didn’t use pore filler so it has a very woody feel to it that I like.

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I will make an inlay on the headstock when my routing template arrives.

Regarding the bridge I used a Gotho tail piece (GE101A-T) that has the right profile and is light weight. I drilled and threaded and used M3 stop screws, it works fine! Of course I could have went with a Pigtail but this was half the cost and I’m really pleased. The bar weights 30 grams and that is what they did in the days as I understand.

In the end I’m very happy with the guitar, both how it looks and how it plays! It weighs in at 2986 grams or 6,584 lbs and is loud and clear played without an amp. With an amp it cleans up like the juniors i the demos, I got some good CTS pots measuring 520 to 540 k ohms and used those with the higher values for volume and the rest for tone. I have a .022 uF PIO cap so it will never be that muddy but since I never go that low with the tone it’s enough range for me. As mentioned above I use the bridge pup of my SD Seth Lover set in this one and it sounds really nice.

Very nice!! Although it may be a struggle to play a guitar that weighs 6,584 lbs!

 

[axis2]

Very nice!! Although it may be a struggle to play a guitar that weighs 6,584 lbs!

Thanks, I struggle with your use of . as decimal marker instead of , that we use, edited that...

 

[SlingBlader]

Thanks, I struggle with your use of . as decimal marker instead of , that we use, edited that...

Yeah, I totally get it... just yanking your chain. That is a gorgeous build, you should be very proud.

 

[DoneOne]

It's really deep lyrics about your inner monster or demon that pops up every now and then

being an absolute angel, I wouldn't know anything about that [halo emoticon]

but I do know a nice looking guitar when I see one.... nice work.

 

[axis2]

being an absolute angel, I wouldn't know anything about that [halo emoticon]

The same here, I didn't understand why our vocal guy said he got the inspiration for that lyrics from me

but I do know a nice looking guitar when I see one.... nice work.

Thanks, I surprised myself with this build, it became a lot better than I had dreamed of, much thanks to your fantastic documentation and valuable hints like: don't drill the hole for the jack until you have routed the edges, there was a few mistakes like that I didn't have to do thanks to your work. I almost feel I should send the guitar to you, but I like it to much so it stays in Sweden and gets a workout every day

 

[DoneOne]

heh - no thanks needed... besides, the enabler was FreddyG. He's even got me seriously resisting the urge to make a 57-ish sc... with a 55-ish neck. Fortunately, I remember well how much I hate sanding... and how much I suck at laying down paint.

 

[axis2]

I remember well how much I hate sanding...

I've always hated sanding too, mostly because it's so easy to mess up if you sand by hand with a tiny block or with a hand held machine... My buddys that make it bearable is a cheap stationary belt sander, a bench mounted disc sander mounted on a big drill and a big hand planer that I use with adhesive sandpaper, and of course the 70 cm radius block.

 

[axis2]

Somewhat later - the third build is finally finished. This time i wanted to raise the bar a bit so it got a neck pickup, a drop top and pro finish since I will never get a painting booth or taking the time to learn the craft.

Basically it has got the same construction as the junior, but the neck joins the body at the 21st fret. Faber hardware, Lundgren Vintage P90s, nitro on the top and tru-oil on the back. No tone for the neck pickup since I never use it and that solves the placement of the switch. Ending up att 3,0 kg or 6.6 lb and is very resonant. I'm very happy with the result!

 

[Joe Desperado]

I like the heel on this one much better. It jut looks right on this model. Nicely done.

 

[fatdaddypreacher]

nicely done indeed.

 

[barryf]

Beautiful. I am struggling though my first build - a DC Jr - and yes, it is my "throw away" build. If it comes out playable, great, but I now have the itch and neck-through is really appealing to me.

 

[axis2]

Beautiful. I am struggling though my first build - a DC Jr - and yes, it is my "throw away" build. If it comes out playable, great, but I now have the itch and neck-through is really appealing to me.

The neck-trough resolves the neck joint problem neatly but you only get one shot at the angle, som measure many times before cutting :-o