FAQ: Tenons

acstorfer

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Exactly, this is not the classical transitional 69-early 75 type of tenon. That bottom lip is extra here, it is very much like some shortened long tenon type. These early Norlins are still full of mysteries. :hmm:
Woohoo! I'm not a complete dumb-ass. I'm just mostly a dumb-ass :).
 

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Also have a custom stamped sept 9 75 w trans tenon mahogany neck. So I think all of 75 was transitional.
 

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Also have a custom stamped sept 9 75 w trans tenon mahogany neck. So I think all of 75 was transitional.
All Kalamazoo pieces, but not 75 Nashvilles. They have from the beginning of production in 75 shorter rocker tenon and maple necks, together with Nashville bridges.
 

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All Kalamazoo pieces, but not 75 Nashvilles. They have from the beginning of production in 75 shorter rocker tenon and maple necks, together with Nashville bridges.
Do u think Nashville produced any guitars w trans tenon abr 1??
 

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Did Kalamazoo produce any with Nashville Bridges?
 

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Did Kalamazoo produce any with Nashville Bridges?
I havent seen them so far. At least the ones with 6 number serial and mahogany necks. Later ones with maple necks had Nashville bridges stock.
 

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Hi all..im new to the site..i have been trying to date my les paul custom since i got it back in 83..i traded a blond standard to my friend..after he had a Kahler trem installed(i know) it is cherry sunburst has gibson embossed pups..orig bridge pup was removed and has a early 80,s duncan distortion handwired by maria it sounds amazing..the serial number is..770608..i havent pulled the neck pup yet but will later and post pics..it has awesome sustain..it will sustain forever if i let it..any help dating would be awesome..also 1 orig pot and its a blob of solder only a 70-027 is all can make out..thank you in advance
 

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it is cherry sunburst has gibson embossed pupsthe serial number is..770608also 1 orig pot and its a blob of solder only a 70-027 is all can make out..
According to this info, it was made in 1972. :)
 

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72? i kind of thought so..it gets so confusing tryin to figure it all out..im gonna pull the neck pup out..do you think it will have a long tenon?..thank you very much for the info
 

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do you think it will have a long tenon?..thank you very much for the info
Its called transitional tenon, used in mid 69-75 (sometimes even early 76). Its very similar to long tenon, still much better than the later short rocker tenon. :)
 

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Howdy,

On a tangential note, I wonder if my 1980 ES-335 CRR (With a 3 piece Maple neck) has a Rocker tennon?
 

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Bump - sorry, had to do it, so where do e stand today on the tenon theory.

Any luthiors willing to weigh in on their experience with building Les Pauls and other style guitars?

I can only say this, Ive got a short tenon LP, which seems to have little life in it at all [no matter what I do to improve that] - a short tenon Epiphone Les Paul that sustains for days.... 2 long tenon LP copies [one thats my go to cause the sound she makes is like heaven to my ears = the other just doesnt have that "it" factor despite having the same long tenon build - glue and dimensions etc... My last guitar is a Tokai Silverstart 3 bolt 1972 strat copy and have to say it too can sustain for as long as my goto guitar...

So where do I stand on this? - I like my long tenon and bolt on Les Paul and Strat mostly....

Why dont I like the Epiphone? - after all I said it sustains forever..? - well that is just it, it sustains too much, there has to be a middle ground otherwise all the strings ring on forever making it sound like $h!t...

I guess its all in the wood, build, strings, bridge, fingers and every component there is ?
 

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I've got a '76 redwine Standard with short tenon which is beat up, but gorgeous sounding and '80 Kalamazoo with short tenon, which sounds like a piano)
 




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