Explanation For Finish Peeling on Murphy Lab LPs

[calieng]

Did you forget about the time the guy ripped off a teenager? Or what about the time he gleefully bragged about switching cases on some guy to make the deal sweeter for himself?

The guy spends his whole day online reading about guitars. He either knows about this, or is woefully uniformed about a pretty big ongoing story in his chosen field.

He also trash talked this forum and the "supposed experts" that frequent it despite the fact that this is where he learned most of the knowledge he has.

The guy's a total knob. I watch the first few minutes for the guitar porn and then turn it off.

Hi voice makes me angry.....cannot watch his vids. Mr. Rogers guitar store.

 

[Slashperryburst]

Hi voice makes me angry.....cannot watch his vids. Mr. Rogers guitar store.

I don't find his voice annoying, but the little chuckle he always does is irritating.

Hyuh hyuh!

 

[calieng]

Murphy Lab products look like mass-produced imitations of Murphy's own relic work that established his name. The finishes that result from the factory (oops -- "lab") approach are not only unreliable and apparently even unstable, but are also low-quality from a visual standpoint. Even the original Murphy relics, which are very carefully and skillfully done, can often look like "good relics" rather than old guitars, but the current Gibson mass-produced versions (copies of fakes, literally) are, IMO, obvious, way overdone, and clumsy. Even if the finishes were more stable, I would still consider this enterprise to be a serious flop because it just doesn't deliver a masterful result, and it is, IMO, massively, massively, rip-off overpriced. Honestly, I find Fender's ham-fisted lighter relics to be way more acceptable than this Gibson "artistry." I'm sorry that some buyers have been hosed and inconvenienced and disappointed, but I'm glad that people are hammering Gibson's troubling response.

A little off topic but the relic work of MJT to me has been the most realistic. And just like Fender or Gibson some are really good and some are not that great I still find his aging to often be just right. Have built several Strats and Teles for under $1k with all name brand (Fender) parts that beat out custom shop versions costing many times more....

 

[spartacus slim]

The guy spends his whole day online reading about guitars. He either knows about this, or is woefully uniformed about a pretty big ongoing story in his chosen field.

He also trash talked this forum and the "supposed experts" that frequent it despite the fact that this is where he learned most of the knowledge he has.

In the “Wino” review video he doesn't seem to be aware that recent Custom Shop Customs all have long neck tenons, and that there is nothing special about the Cantrell signature having this spec. Maybe he hasn’t been keeping up with news on the forums after all!

 

[Slashperryburst]

In the “Wino” review video he doesn't seem to be aware that recent Custom Shop Customs all have long neck tenons, and that there is nothing special about the Cantrell signature having this spec. Maybe he hasn’t been keeping up with news on the forums after all!

I'm not going to sit here and say "I guarantee you he knows about it", because no-one can make a statement like that unless they've heard/seen him talking about it. I'm just saying I wouldn't put it past him if he did know about it and was just trying to pass it on to some unsuspecting guy. He got this direct from Gibson, so maybe he doesn't want to damage the relationship he has with them.

One thing I will say is that at the same time the customs received the long neck tenon, the original collection standards were falsely reported as having one. He made a big deal about checking the early ones he could get his hands on. I think this is his first regular custom from the current era, so it's possible that he thought that there was also a mistake on the custom spec sheet.

Either way, for someone who's been buying up these crazy priced guitars Gibson have been putting out recently, you'd think he'd be up to date with a story like this.

 

[spartacus slim]

Either way, for someone who's been buying up these crazy priced guitars Gibson have been putting out recently, you'd think he'd be up to date with a story like this.

Agree 100%.

 

[Brek]

I had real close look at my R8 today and boy it is a really thin coat of lacquer on it. Which in turn might explain why the things so damn resonant. Looks like I will have to be more careful in handling in future as lacquer that thin must be much more fragile. Its interesting to compare to my two Goldtop murphies. The lacquer is definitely thicker on those, they are all 2020 models although i don't know how the serial numbers work as to how close they are to each other.

 

[DanD]

I had real close look at my R8 today and boy it is a really thin coat of lacquer on it. Which in turn might explain why the things so damn resonant. Looks like I will have to be more careful in handling in future as lacquer that thin must be much more fragile. Its interesting to compare to my two Goldtop murphies. The lacquer is definitely thicker on those, they are all 2020 models although i don't know how the serial numbers work as to how close they are to each other.

The most resonant Gibson I've owned is a BFG with little to no lacquer whatsoever on it.

I painted that guitar with nitro and it was never the same.

That was enough to show me that the finish definitely affects the resonance.

 

[KeoRS]

Alright, here is what happened on my end. Before I go into it, I simply want to say that my local store was awesome throughout this whole time (over 6 months...).

So a replacement '58 Ultra Light Aged in Bourbon Burst was eventually provided to my dealer. I show up at the store and at first sight I wasn't impressed. The paint was clearly brighter (in fact, my original example probably more leaned towards dark burst). Alright... just the paint job, it's still okay. I start looking at details and boy oh boy... bubbling on the headstock close to the nut, finish lacquer missing on the binding next to the strap lock (probably over buffed), the strap lock next to the neck was drilled in off axis and the base of the pin indented the body cracking the paint surrounding it , and the ageing was laughable compared to my initial example. I still took a good hour to play with the guitar and try to like it, but then I also noticed it had noooooo sustain what so ever.

So my dealer sent it back to Gibson (imagine, stores are having a hard time getting stock... and he sent it back instead of selling it to someone else). So the waiting game resumed...

However, I saw online that there was a new R8 VOS in stock close by. I found my guitar. Unfortunately, it wasn't at the same store so I had to take a refund and proceeded to purchase my new R8 VOS... which has got a little flammage going on!! Supppppper happy that I am finished waiting... either for a guitar or finish to flake

 

[amorrow]

Your new one looks great!

Am I the only one who’s had one refinished?

 

[KeoRS]

Your new one looks great!

Am I the only one who’s had one refinished?

Thanks!

I think the fact that yours is M2M contributed to Gibson willing to refinish it!!