ExNihilo Vintage Burst Build
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nuance97
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It needs to be 5/8" thick before you carve. It could be thicker when you glue it to the mahogany just make sure to mill it to 5/8" when you carve.
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DRJIMMI - get some plans. Check out Bartlett Woodworking for $22 including international shipping it will be the best investment of anything you buy to build a vintage correct LP replica!!
Cheers Peter.
Cheers Peter.
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May I second that, Toms plan and templates are top quality & exactly match the routing templates he can supply. Arrived in UK in less than 14 days, superb service & very helpful.
I am sure I am in a long queue of builders who have used these plans successfully, in wanting to say this! (Wont even go there with authenticity issue, these plans are widely used & highly rated).
Cheers, John.
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Forgot to add that Ex-Nihlo's posts, including this thread have been invaluable & very helpful on my Bartlett plan build, along with carving tutorials he has painstakingly put together for all of us to share & lots of great builds. Thanks.
Cheers, John.
Cheers, John.
Set Neck, I don't know what the problem is that you have with Tom Bartlett or his templates but all I have seen from you is that you started out posting a set of templates that are ExNihilo's, then you follow up with pics of a set of plywood templates that I'm sure that Tom did not make. After reading your post I got my 53' out of the case and checked it against a set of Tom's templates and they matched as perfect as anyone could get. Now you youself said that 53 through 69 were the same. I have never met Tom but I have spent some time on the phone with him, he has always taken the time to answer any questions I've had and I know he is a very busy person. The point I'm trying to make is that you should have never made the statments you made about Tom on a public forum. You should have contacted Tom personally. All you have done is upset a lot of forum members that you may need some help from some day. Fred
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Good eye - Tom's are MDF, aren't they?
All I can say is that I have now been lucky enough to get up close and personal with a few real '59s here in Tokyo, and my notes on the anomalies are really consistent with Tom's stuff. I also used a combination of his plans as the basis for three guitars so far, none of which were replicas (all had different body modifications, headstocks, inlays, my own logos and a whole bunch of other stuff - none were even in a 'burst finish). I don't understand why someone who uses this stuff in the same way that I have would be considered a "fraud".
I should note that I also used the ExNihilo measurements for my first carve, but created my own after that, as the few original 'bursts I have seen here seem to be a bit differently contoured. I am not saying for a moment that they are inaccurate - one would expect variation, of course, with such inconsistent production techniques and such a small sample group. I'm still revising my carve shape and expect to be for a while.
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Bottom line is this. You want an accurate burst???? Go spend 250K You'll get a MOFO!
If you want to build your self a guitar? Get the plans. Not perfect?? Who cares? Hell, in my day stuff like this didn't even exist.
Some of you are too damn anal, and I'd be willing to bet, a lot are folks that have never even seen a real one.
Carry on..............
If you want to build your self a guitar? Get the plans. Not perfect?? Who cares? Hell, in my day stuff like this didn't even exist.
Some of you are too damn anal, and I'd be willing to bet, a lot are folks that have never even seen a real one.
Carry on..............
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Bottom line is this. You want an accurate burst???? Go spend 250K You'll get a MOFO!
If you want to build your self a guitar? Get the plans. Not perfect?? Who cares? Hell, in my day stuff like this didn't even exist.
Some of you are too damn anal, and I'd be willing to bet, a lot are folks that have never even seen a real one.
Carry on..............
Truth, right here in glorious Technicolor.
Despite having seen the real thing, I'm definitely as guilty as anyone of being OCD, so a good reality check is always welcome. Cheers!!!
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He may also have made a (ply) template from his other template.
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You want exact, buy real. You want to make "restorations" based on a guy's plan? That sounds like you want to make copies. As a guy that has been at the repair bench for 35 years, I have NEVER needed a template to do a restoration. I HAVE needed templates to build new guitars.
I have several real 50's Les Pauls here, and none of them line up with another.
My opinion, worth what you paid for it.
I have several real 50's Les Pauls here, and none of them line up with another.
My opinion, worth what you paid for it.
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"The guitar was being converted so my luthier ran a router around it to get a perfect shape and then started in on measurements"
I'm sorry but your "luthier" is a jerk, nobody responsible enough and in his right mind would risk a real 50's to that. JMHO.
I'm sorry but your "luthier" is a jerk, nobody responsible enough and in his right mind would risk a real 50's to that. JMHO.
