Exactly What is it that's wrong with '15 Les Pauls?

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Before I lay down cash for a new guitar what is all the crying about over the 2015 Gibson Les Paul? Can it be intelligently summed up by anyone here?
 

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No it cannot.

I suspected as much! I will give it a day or two and if no intelligent argument can be put forth on this or the other forums I posted then I'll plunks down my money and buys my guitar.
 

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I've been looking but direct interaction seemed like a good final step.
 

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Foregoing any of my own personal preferences…I would think the most important thing would be how does it play/feel to you? Things like the minEtuners can probably be worked around/replaced if they don't exactly work right. The zero-fret/nut can be a good system, the neck shape/width are all things you need to try out.

If it turns out you like it and decide to go with one, then good for you and don't let the negative reactions here dissuade or affect that. It should still be a great-quality instrument. the new features definitely differentiate it from its predecessors, but it is still uniquely a Gibson Les Paul. Play what you like.
 

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I think you should go buy your new guitar,and don't let us stop you. After all, what could we possibly know about these things that you don't !!!??? :applause:
 

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Before I lay down cash for a new guitar what is all the crying about over the 2015 Gibson Les Paul? Can it be intelligently summed up by anyone here?
The simple answer: if you have to base your own opinion off of the opinions of a bunch of people (most of which have clearly stated their own on the matter), then you probably shouldn't even think about it?
 

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In a nutshell:

GForce Tuning which appears, for many, to be unreliable. And if you try to tune manually you can end up breaking the mechanism.

Wider Fretboard. Some are OK with it, most are not.

New headstock logo, which some don't like.

There are other differences, but I'd say those are the main three based on what I've read on this forum.
 

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The simple answer: if you have to base your own opinion off of the opinions of a bunch of people (most of which have clearly stated their own on the matter), then you probably shouldn't even think about it?

Excellent answer to a question not asked. Thank you so much!
 

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One of the huge problems about asking on an internet forum if guitar X is worth buying is that a load of people (who haven't tried one) will say it is rubbish, and a load of people (who haven't tried one) will say that it is the best thing ever produced.

Then there will be some who say that you should look at guitar Y instead. Followed by many who will say that Y is rubbish and you should buy guitar Z if you have any sense.

There will then be a discussion which will include a totally different manufacturer of guitars as being better value.

The end result will be that you will have been recommended to buy (or select from) about 50 different guitars..... as long as on some of them you upgrade the wiring or change the pickups.

Bottom line is that the safest way to get satisfaction is to play a few and then buy the one that blows your skirt up.

Rod
 

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Having not played one I can't comment on how they feel or sound. After seeing a couple of the rim burst models that supposedly have a metallic tint I don't want to know how they play.
The cost of removing/replacing the hardware I don't want and a refinish of the top and headstock make the ones I've seen unsuitable for me.
 

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One of the huge problems about asking on an internet forum if guitar X is worth buying is that a load of people (who haven't tried one) will say it is rubbish, and a load of people (who haven't tried one) will say that it is the best thing ever produced.

Then there will be some who say that you should look at guitar Y instead. Followed by many who will say that Y is rubbish and you should buy guitar Z if you have any sense.

There will then be a discussion which will include a totally different manufacturer of guitars as being better value.

The end result will be that you will have been recommended to buy (or select from) about 50 different guitars..... as long as on some of them you upgrade the wiring or change the pickups.

Bottom line is that the safest way to get satisfaction is to play a few and then buy the one that blows your skirt up.

Rod

I expect as much but thought I may find at least one or two answers in a thread worth some deeper conversation.
 

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Before I lay down cash for a new guitar what is all the crying about over the 2015 Gibson Les Paul? Can it be intelligently summed up by anyone here?

whats all the crying about??...........its different........silly bill.
 

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I suspected as much! I will give it a day or two and if no intelligent argument can be put forth on this or the other forums I posted then I'll plunks down my money and buys my guitar.

Brilliant!

Welcome to Henry's key demographic.
 

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From what i've seen Bill and that's only the demo by Chappers and Cap'n Lee, it looks like apart from the tuner which is an aquired taste but can be removed and sold on, and the aesthetically unpleasant LP signature, not much else is wrong with them.

With coil taps everywhere and the Peter green reverse tone you have loads of tonal variatons. The nut tho it may not look great is adjustable cant be a bad thing can it. I'd buy one they look great but are too expensive.
 

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