Epi LP Custom Pro vs. Epi Black Beauty

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Differences between these two?

1. Obviously the addition of the middle pickup on the BB3
2. Custom has the newer pickups vs. the older alnico in the BB3.
3. BB3 has a C shaped neck, so I'm guessing a little slimmer than the slim tapered D shape of the Custom, but probably both very close
4. Custom has a maple veneer, the BB3 is all mahogany, but tonally pretty close I'm thinking.

The BB3 is cool looking, but the Custom seems like the better value overall, and maybe the better guitar, splitting hairs perhaps.

Anyone own both, or have played both to know differences?
 

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Both have the '60s slim taper' type neck

probably both have veneer, even they are painted black
both have no maple top, just the maple veneer

IMO the only difference is one more pickup and non PRO pickups
 

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IRG,

I've played a few....but....
I never could find a place to dig in and pick on a 3 humbucker guit-fiddle.

Just personal style,

Papa
 

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Both have the '60s slim taper' type neck

probably both have veneer, even they are painted black
both have no maple top, just the maple veneer

IMO the only difference is one more pickup and non PRO pickups


Well the Custom Pro has the Pro pickups, obviously. But the BB3 does not, you're correct. Not sure the BB3 even has a maple veneer, the Sweetwater site I'm looking at says it's a mahogany top as well, with the Custom being a veneer. I don't think it makes much of a difference either.

Papa mentioned the BB3 being hard to dig in because of pickup placement, and I can see that being an issue too.

I'm thinking of a Custom but then doing some mods to it, pickups, wiring, switch, maybe some cosmetics. But if I do I might have to sell one or two of what I have. Or not, we'll see :cool:
 

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That is pretty sexy. The slightly different shape on the single cut bout would bug me though, like on Agile (which I like as well). I've looked at Edwards too, which have spot on shapes, but the price is too much.

I'm thinking of using a local pickup builder, who has a lot of clout among LP afficionados: Humbuckers – Manlius Guitar

Rest of the mods won't be much. I like Epiphone for the most part, their build quality as we know is quite good right now, with good electronics and wiring, they can hold their own with anything. I keep selling each Gibson I own, so...
 

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That is pretty sexy. The slightly different shape on the single cut bout would bug me though, like on Agile (which I like as well). I've looked at Edwards too, which have spot on shapes, but the price is too much.

I'm thinking of using a local pickup builder, who has a lot of clout among LP afficionados: Humbuckers – Manlius Guitar

Rest of the mods won't be much. I like Epiphone for the most part, their build quality as we know is quite good right now, with good electronics and wiring, they can hold their own with anything. I keep selling each Gibson I own, so...

The LPC is ~ 550 + 2 pickups = ~ 750 USD
The BB3 is ~ 700 + 3 pickups = ~ 1000 USD

BTW, the FGN LC-10 will ship for 869,50Euro / 1018 USD to your door,
local taxes not included

The build quality is far upon regular Epis, it's FujiGen made
 

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What makes the FGN build quality superior? And how does it compare to say Edwards, which is the same price point?
 

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Here's an Edwards Custom, looks bitchin', although I think I prefer the vanilla color of the binding of the Epi better:

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What makes the FGN build quality superior? And how does it compare to say Edwards, which is the same price point?

FGN is the own brand from FujiGen Gakki, Japan
their history of building great guitars for nearly all big manufacturers like
Gibson/Epi, Fender or Ibanez is legendary

History of FUJIGEN
 

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You haven't answered the question, other than a link which I can't read right now (but want to eventually). What makes this build superior? Woods, pickups, finishes, elves?
 

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You haven't answered the question, other than a link which I can't read right now (but want to eventually). What makes this build superior? Woods, pickups, finishes, elves?



Half a century of passion in wooden instruments

Established in 1960, FUJIGEN has been manufacturing guitars and basses for many world famous labels for half a century. As the original manufacturer, we sign responsible for the high quality (and probably for the success) of many of the worlds most respected brands.
Today, FUJIGEN is expanding into a global market with the aim toestablish the name FUJIGEN as its original brand.
FUJIGEN claims its leadership in the world of electric guitars due toits know-how in the treatment of wood
 

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The LPC is ~ 550 + 2 pickups = ~ 750 USD
The BB3 is ~ 700 + 3 pickups = ~ 1000 USD

BTW, the FGN LC-10 will ship for 869,50Euro / 1018 USD to your door,
local taxes not included

The build quality is far upon regular Epis, it's FujiGen made

I'm pretty certain that if I didn't have my '07 Elitist and a JB on the way, I'd be ordering an FGN, not a Custom, but their equivalent of a Standard. Their workmanship is just impeccable, judging from my 2 Elitists!
 

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Yeah I read that, sounds good. It's also called marketing. I make many things sound good that I do for a living too. And I'm pretty good at it. I've looked through the website, they produce high quality instruments for other manufacturers, that's fine and good.

They make OEM guitars for whom exactly? Fender and Gibson? PRS? ESP? I know some great stuff has been made out of Japan, but not sure if they make anything original, that they export, do they? At $1k from Japan, there has to be some short cuts taken, or lesser quality woods, finishes, I would think. If not, bonus.

Nitro finish on what you ordered? Not knocking them, but what you're showing here is still 2x the Epiphone version, not sure what shipping would cost too, somewhere in the $125+ range I'm guessing, like Edwards seems to cost.
 

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I'm pretty certain that if I didn't have my '07 Elitist and a JB on the way, I'd be ordering an FGN, not a Custom, but their equivalent of a Standard. Their workmanship is just impeccable, judging from my 2 Elitists!

So does FGN make the Elitists then? I didn't think any of the Elitists other than the Casino were still being made? Where do you order an FGN from this website that Paruwi listed?
 

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The 3rd (middle) pickup has no practical purpose.... But it looks really friggen cool!!!!
 

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So does FGN make the Elitists then? I didn't think any of the Elitists other than the Casino were still being made? Where do you order an FGN from this website that Paruwi listed?

They made the solid body Elitists. I don't know if Matsumoku makes the Casino and the acoustics, but FujiGen doesn't.
 

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