Effort to strike Virginia's fornication law fails

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Fornication is a term more often used in church than in court these days, but it still occupies space in Virginia’s criminal code and allows the state to fine anyone who has sex outside of marriage $250.
An effort to strike that part of the law failed in a House subcommittee Wednesday over concerns it would create loopholes for related statutes dealing with incest and other sex crimes.
HB914 was one of the last of a handful of bills this session seeking to eliminate antiquated tenets of Virginia law. Lawmakers also have rejected others looking to decriminalize suicide and adultery.
The laws “represent a past that not everyone’s let go of,” a past that can take a long time to change, said Claire Guthrie Gastañaga, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia.
Suicide is a common-law crime with no set penalty. Adultery is a misdemeanor, punishable, like fornication, by a $250 fine.
While prosecutions for the latter offenses are rare, they still occur. There were eight convictions for fornication last year, said Del. David Albo, R-Fairfax County, who chairs the House Constitutional Law Subcommittee, which struck down HB914.
In Hampton Roads in 2011, one Newport News man was charged with two counts of fornicating, according to a Virginian-Pilot analysis of Virginia Supreme Court data. The charges ultimately were withdrawn.
The region’s courts handled two adultery cases that year. One, in Virginia Beach, was found not guilty by a judge. The other, in Chesapeake, pleaded guilty and received a six-day jail sentence, but that case involved incest, according to the data.
Prosecutors sometimes use the charges in plea agreements when the original offenses were more severe, according to the subcommittee’s legal counsel. The U.S. Supreme Court has invalidated state laws penalizing sexual behavior between two consenting adults, Gastañaga said. Adultery instead is most often used as a weapon in divorce and custody proceedings, she added.
“This is just cleaning up the code,” Gastañaga said Wednesday in support of HB914. “You put your hand on the Bible and took an oath to uphold the constitution. … You didn’t agree to uphold the Bible.”
 

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I find it hard to believe that fornication is illegal in Paw Paw.
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I wanted to wait until marriage, Phiily gals "forced" me to give it up. I was not happy.
 

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lǎo​wài;5887418 said:
Are you in trouble JimJim?

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

no, I got a marriage license.

But if you don't have one in Ol' Virginny . . . you best keep it to yourself.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
 

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I dont know why these laws are on the books at all.

You hear all the time we need to bring this country back to its roots and blah blah blah and there is laws about how, who, where you can screw.

Everything should be legal that does not cause to unwilling participants. Thats my stance anyway.
 

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I dont know why these laws are on the books at all.

You hear all the time we need to bring this country back to its roots and blah blah blah and there is laws about how, who, where you can screw.

Everything should be legal that does not cause to unwilling participants. Thats my stance anyway.




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realjimjim

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I dont know why these laws are on the books at all.

You hear all the time we need to bring this country back to its roots and blah blah blah and there is laws about how, who, where you can screw.

Everything should be legal that does not cause to unwilling participants. Thats my stance anyway.

They want to appear that they're all respectable and decent.

That's my take anyway.
 

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Be sure to cover the table and piano legs, you never know it might send someone over the top :laugh2:

Here's one for you: Someone told me there's a law in some Virginia county where it is still a felony to have sex with the lights on.

I gotta look that up one day when I get some extra energy.
 

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OH NO!!:run:

Dumb Laws in New York

It is illegal to congregate in public with two or more people while each wearing a mask or any face covering which disguises your identity.(Can you say Burkha?)

In New York, adultery is still a crime.

A person may not walk around on Sundays with an ice cream cone in his/her pocket.

Women may go topless in public, providing it is not being used as a business.

While riding in an elevator, one must talk to no one, and fold his hands while looking toward the door.

You may not smoke within 100 feet of the entrance to a public building.

Slippers are not to be worn after 10:00 PM.

It is illegal for a woman to be on the street wearing “body hugging clothing”.

Citizens may not greet each other by “putting one’s thumb to the nose and wiggling the fingers”.

A fine of $25 can be levied for flirting.

It is against the law to throw a ball at someone’s head for fun.

The penalty for jumping off a building is death.

New Yorkers cannot dissolve a marriage for irreconcilable differences, unless they both agree to it.

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