Does this look like a real PAF?

macg1

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Hi all,

I got a lead on a 61 SG LP and I am really considering pulling the trigger. Of course I have to go play it first. I am however a bit skeptical about the pickups. Here is an image from the seller:

https://imgur.com/ctZ7gnl

The sticker looks a bit off to me. What do you guys think?
 
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Without removing the cover and having it examined using some key diagnostic features, the external view alone is not enough. There are too many good copies of original PAfs out there......Google OTPG
 

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Not a PAF. Actually, NOTHING of what you can see belongs to a PAF.

The sticker looks like one of a Classic '57/Burstbucker.
I always thinking 57 classics too. The price on the guitar is right. It has a headstock repair, new tuners, and these pickups. The repair was done VERY well from the pics. At 4200 bucks probably still a good price.
 

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I don't think it's a Gibson pickup, at all (at least, not because of the stickers). I think it's just a sticker on some humbucker. The position, the font spacing and font aren't usual for a 57 classic (neither for a BB#).
 

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Not real.

Where shall I send my consultation bill?
I paged you when I saw the thick border on the sticker. My first thought was a repro sticker.

The depth of the backplate looked off too.
 

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Original PAF decals were screen-printed with enamel onto the backing material, then hand cut. The boarder size/shape, or offset printing, isn't an indicator of authenticity, as they were hand made. This is also why the letters are thicker and more "puffy" sometimes, and thinner and crisper others.

That said, everything on that pickup is incorrect, as Pepe pointed out. There's not a single correct part in view in those two crappy photos.

FWIW, a great indicator of fake pickups seems to be a limited amount of poor quality photos. Also, the price. Nearly every fake pickup that comes up here is a crazy deal that has to be snatched up right away with only two blurry photos from a bad angle available (still showing all the wrong stuff) and the decals are usually chipped away at. For someone without a great amount of knowledge of PAF parts, price and lacking photo detail / quantity should be enough to make a prospective buyer run. Anyone selling real PAFs will certainly take the time to take lots of decent photos and won't be looking to unload them at 25% of market value.
 




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