Do businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone?

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Rando375

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Well, we will see who gets the last laugh 20 years from now. The world isn't ready yet. But no way am I getting in a back and forth with a dozen people at once. If you guys are even alive 20 years from now you'll see that I'm spot on, you just aren't ready for it.

That is a [email protected] UP thing to say, much less think.

Done with you and this nonsense. Go get some help, you really f'n need it
 

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A lot of the stuff from the 60s Civil Rights stuff is regarding public properties/services. They have to serve everyone, and I support that. When that woman refused to issue a marriage license to a gay couple, she should have been made to or fired. You can’t enforce your beliefs through public authority; you’re there to serve the public. Same with desegregation in public schools.

But I’m talking about private business. I can’t it being legal anywhere to have a sign that says “no colored people”, but I can see them NOT having a sign and refusing to serve them. Are they required to give a reason?? Maybe they didn’t like this guy, who happened to be black, because of his baggy pants, or that guy, who also happened to be black, because he “talked black” or something. But if he isn’t forced to give a reason, can he still refuse service? Can a black guy refuse to serve a black guy but a white guy can’t? Personally, I wouldn’t even want to be where I’m not wanted. I’ll take my business elsewhere. Would it bother me? I dunno.
I’m not condoning it, mind you.
I’m just asking if it’s legal.

I’d say it never bothered me in Japan, but that wouldn’t strictly speaking be true, as sometimes I was so gassed before I even tried to get into their bars, that when they’d “X” their arms and say “No gijing”, my drunk ass made sure they knew how I felt when I stormed off. Lots of WW2 references.
Basically, I totally justified their policy. :)
Ah, but you CAN enforce a belief in equal treatment. Equal. Not special, EQUAL. There were plenty of "sundown towns" and "no ni##ers allowed" signs in shops. These are not "public" according to you. They could and did refuse to serve them. And got away with it for a long time. Some want to go back to "no Jews allowed". Or 'no Irish". That stuff was real.

Maybe I hate short people. Can I exclude them? Prolly a bad idea.
 

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Well, we will see who gets the last laugh 20 years from now. The world isn't ready yet. But no way am I getting in a back and forth with a dozen people at once. If you guys are even alive 20 years from now you'll see that I'm spot on, you just aren't ready for it.

Yes i see you want communism and socialism but only regarding the specific issues you believe in, otherwise you don't want it and you'll cry about it.

You don't know what you want and you're allowing your emotions to dictate your beliefs instead of logic.

I see a lot of that lately.
 

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Yes i see you want communism and socialism but only regarding the specific issues you believe in, otherwise you don't want it and you'll cry about it.

You don't know what you want and you're allowing your emotions to dictate your beliefs instead of logic.

I see a lot of that lately.

I'm very moderate for a 31 year old, you think I'm extreme? You haven't seen my peers. And when I'm your age, I'll be replaced by the next generation of people as well. Just the way it goes. Moderate Democrats will be the new Republicans in 20 years.
 

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I'm like 10 years older than you. Get over yourself.

There doesn't seem to be moderate anything these days. I do see crazy crybabies who get violent and hateful when they don't get their way though. Like your post that mocked my oncoming death?

Causing civil unrest and getting people killed and then saying it's, "progress" like a bunch of brain-dead hippies.

Kicking people out of restaurants or attacking them because they can't "tolerate" their red hat.

Real progress.

Really stupid

Cry babies
 
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Well, we will see who gets the last laugh 20 years from now. The world isn't ready yet. But no way am I getting in a back and forth with a dozen people at once. If you guys are even alive 20 years from now you'll see that I'm spot on, you just aren't ready for it.
We were all your age once. And what YOU don't realize is that 20 years from now, you won't be who you are now...just as we once were.
I'll stop there, so I don't spoil it for you. :cheers2:
 

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I thought you were 19 because of your childish and simple minded ones.
You know what? Maybe I should just leave. There is too much of a disconnect between me and some of the others here. Best of luck to all of you. Even the ones who have maliciously maligned me here. This is why we can't talk about big boy things here. Enjoy your cat memes and shallow discussions. This place lacks substance. Take care grandpa, know that you are a huge fucking dork that fantasizes about getting sloppy seconds on a real doll in a god damn robot brothel.
 

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Cats and guitar porn. What do you guys think of this?
 

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I like Capitalism, the Market will decide.
As an overall concept I agree with this. I do think this could *somewhat* lead to a divisive society however. Let me explain. Let's say I own and operate Dilemma's Dangerous Guitars and one afternoon a skinhead band comes in -Let's call them 'Hiter's Pride'- and want's me to build them a sinister looking guitar adorned with swastikas and all sorts of Nazi imagery. I decide a dollar is a dollar and gin up something that my customer is happy with.

A month later another guy comes in and requests something similar to the guitar I built for Hiter's Pride. Once again, a dollar is a dollar and I build it. I'm slowly developing a reputation for supporting hate by making these instruments which in all likelihood will drive more business from like minded individuals. Once word get's out that my shop and the area it's located in is Nazi friendly, that'll draw even more customers. Good for business? Maybe. Bad for society.

I should be allowed to tell Hitler's Pride to GTFO of my store. Your capitalism example works both ways. Remember a dollar is a dollar. Refusing to build that guitar is the flip side of building that guitar. But if I were to build it, that promotes hate.
 

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@Dilemma I agree with you. But i support your right to say, "no I'm not going to build that", and society can't force you or sue you into building it.

My example of capitalism was my example that it's your right and freedom to decide what to do with your own business.
 

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Now you're just trolling. Like Mal said, you need to get over yourself.
Well, I'm not going to be talked down by a guy who probably has a collection of 400 pocket pussies and a gallon of personal lubricant stashed in his bedroom. I tried civil discourse and it did not work.
 
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