Dimarzio's defending their double cream

Mark V Guitars

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We may not like it, but there's no reason for DiMarzio to not try to claim those things.

Having a pair of rounded-ended dual bobbins is not a functional requirement for making a humbucker pickup.

From a functioning standpoint, covers on or off, a config like this would not function different, even though it looks different, wouldn't it?






And, since he's looking to trademark the uncovered-humbucker look, he gets to make the argument. When that fails, at least go after the double-cream look.

It's up to the examiner to find fault and deny. That didn't happen.


As for the rounded pins being "functional".... well, you could make them square, and they'd function, I suppose. They'd be a lot tougher to manufacture that way, and that would be a burden to competition. Something that would make challenging this easier.


Hey.... There you go. Want double-cream? Just make them with squared-end bobbins. No trademark violation. Or square pins. Good luck sourcing them. Or adjusting them.
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Well we don't make our humbuckers with "rounded pins," we use slugs and screws! Does that mean we can make all of the double creams we want?
 

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Well we don't make our humbuckers with "rounded pins," we use slugs and screws! Does that mean we can make all of the double creams we want?
Let me illustrate it for you:


No Problem.



No problem.



HUGE problem.
 

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The double cream thing is not the only d!CK move Larry has made over the years. Look up the polepiece measurements for both standard and f spaced Dimarzios. Now, take those numbers and compare to pole spacing measurements on just about any aftermarket site (Philadelphia Luthier for instance). You'll see the Dimarzios are just a hair (and I mean a hair) wider thereby forcing you to purchase covers from being them. Found this out when in needed covers for some 36th Annis.
 

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That is disgusting and pathetic!
Like a small winder does not have enough of a tough time trying to make it!:mad:
 

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The double cream thing is not the only d!CK move Larry has made over the years. Look up the polepiece measurements for both standard and f spaced Dimarzios. Now, take those numbers and compare to pole spacing measurements on just about any aftermarket site (Philadelphia Luthier for instance). You'll see the Dimarzios are just a hair (and I mean a hair) wider thereby forcing you to purchase covers from being them. Found this out when in needed covers for some 36th Annis.
So glad you noticed this! tell me he is not a total money whore.
Unlike a small winder,he is more about the $$$ than a really good p'u
 

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From everything i have researched online larry has very little to do with the actual pu's design since the super distortion model.
That really is HIS ONLY pu'. His design.
All the latter models were designed by Steve blucher for the pro's or general public.
Pu's like the PAF pro,FRED,Tone zone,transition, air classics,36th PAF,etc,etc were are designed by blucher not larry.
 

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I wonder if he has to actually provide the exact color (like a PANTONE formula). 'Creme' really covers a wide range. I would think any case would have to force him into a formula for an exact color.
 

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I can't believe how vague it is. It's like Ferrari claiming that it has the exclusive right to "the color red which resembles the distinctive shade of blood" on any car with two doors. If any company in the entire automotive world is identified with the color red, it's Ferrari, and that vague claim would still be ridiculous, yet still more valid than this by miles.
 

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I have never owned or purchased Dimarzio pickups new and will not ever. I think Larry and Seymour have some type of understanding or it could be that he doesn't go after SD because that is one of the few people with deep pockets and a legal team to match.
 

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I think Larry and Seymour have some type of understanding or it could be that he doesn't go after SD because that is one of the few people with deep pockets and a legal team to match.
You obviously don't know about the "Cease and Desist" letter sent by the Legal Firm representing DMZ to the Seymour Duncan Co... they've telling customers about the unavailability of that color combo since at least 2004, it their Forum is any indication, but hearsay tells that the feud date early '80s.
 

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I can't believe how vague it is. It's like Ferrari claiming that it has the exclusive right to "the color red which resembles the distinctive shade of blood" on any car with two doors. If any company in the entire automotive world is identified with the color red, it's Ferrari, and that vague claim would still be ridiculous, yet still more valid than this by miles.
Got some screen wipes I can borrow? That was funny as hell. :laugh2::laugh2:
 

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You obviously don't know about the "Cease and Desist" letter sent by the Legal Firm representing DMZ to the Seymour Duncan Co... they've telling customers about the unavailability of that color combo since at least 2004, it their Forum is any indication, but hearsay tells that the feud date early '80s.
That's no hearsay

 

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I have no problems with Dimarzio, what Larry did was smart. What I do have a problem with is that here in Canada you can't go in to any guitar shop and buy Dimarzio double cream pickups. When I bought my 36 Anniversary PAF I was told by my Toronto area Long & McQuade that the double creams would have to be ordered special. I paid for them and waited for about 8 weeks with no word. Eventually L&M had the last one in Canada shipped from a store in BC. If you are going to hoard that colour for yourself, at least make them available!!!
 

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The double cream thing is not the only d!CK move Larry has made over the years. Look up the polepiece measurements for both standard and f spaced Dimarzios. Now, take those numbers and compare to pole spacing measurements on just about any aftermarket site (Philadelphia Luthier for instance). You'll see the Dimarzios are just a hair (and I mean a hair) wider thereby forcing you to purchase covers from being them. Found this out when in needed covers for some 36th Annis.
Actually, it's the opposite... Dimarzio's "standard" spacing is 48.5mm, whereas everyone else uses 49.2 (or 49.5). Same with their "F-spaced" pickups: They use 52 mm as opposed to 53 by nearly everyone else.
 

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their "F-spaced" pickups: They use 52 mm
quote form DMZ:
"Compatibility Guide
48.6mm
These covers will fit the DiMarzio® “traditional spaced” humbuckers

51.05mm
These covers will fit the DiMarzio® “F spaced” humbuckers"

HTH,
 

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But people think Apple is awesome. They are so much worse.
 

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You obviously don't know about the "Cease and Desist" letter sent by the Legal Firm representing DMZ to the Seymour Duncan Co... they've telling customers about the unavailability of that color combo since at least 2004, it their Forum is any indication, but hearsay tells that the feud date early '80s.
Whoa. I had no idea that it went back that far. How does the "double cream coming covered from the factory" play into this?
 


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