Dimarzio's defending their double cream

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Don't know the details, but it appears that 'ol Larry is going after a boutique winder for making and selling double cream humbuckers. That's all I know. Feel free to add your 2¢...
 

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I hope Dimarzio's loses. They should never had been given that trademark. Both Gibson and Fender made double cream humbuckers before Dimarzio's.
 

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Another BS lawsuit.
 

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How's about everyone crowdfund their defense and challenge of this unreasonable copyright?
 

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How's about everyone crowdfund their defense and challenge of this unreasonable copyright?
Believe Wolfe of Wolfe Tone Pickups is helping a competitor challenge DiMarzio in Lawsuit over this. You might want to contact Wolf for the Deets.
 

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It's neither. It's a "trademark". And saying "Gibson did it first" doesn't change that.

"Burger King" was not the first company to be "The Home of The Whopper", but they did trademark it. And then forced a local business around here to take down their sign that had been on display for decades.


DiMarzio trademarked something that stood out on their product. if they don't defend the trademark, they will forfeit it. I support DiMarzio on this. Not because "I like it", but because they ARE working within a system. We have rules. You'd hate it if we didn't.
Yeah, so like OJ is innocent since he won working within the system.

And Wall St crashing the economy of the world is ok since they worked within the system.

Etc...

Got it.
 

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The one word when bringing up Larry name is Scumbag
Funny you don't see factory tours of Dimarzio like you see with Duncan .. I suspect they are made overseas ...Who knows ?
 

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I'm of the opinion that you can't trademark a color that is a standard part of a particular product, in this case a guitar. Binding is cream. Pick guard, cream. Pickup surrounds, cream. Cavity covers, cream. Kluson style tuners, cream. And pickup bobbins were double cream long before Larry started a company and decided they were his. It is not unreasonable for consumers to want double cream pickups from any aftermarket company because they are a historical and standard color of a Les Paul guitar and there is no way that it would hold up in court. If he created a non-standard color pickup that became his company's image, that would hold up in court.
 

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No trademark on a color is gonna hold up in court. How that happened in the first place is ridiculous.
 

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Let anyone on this site get the slightest whiff of a non-Gibson guitar with an "open book" profile headstock.... we get all :run:
What?

There's an entire subforum filled with guitars with open book headstocks (which also use trademarked body shapes).

People can question the validity of a trademark without being anarchists or hypocrites.

Dimarzio having the trademark for double cream pickups is asinine, and I don't give a **** if it's legal or not. Dimarzio also has the trademark for the term "PAF," as well as (I believe) chrome bobbins. Also retarded. That doesn't mean I'm running around in a Guy Fawkes mask trying to upend law and order.
 

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It's just going to be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Has Dimarzio ever been challenged like this before? It's really about ****ing time, and if Dimarzio loses it's really a win.

The trademark might have been valid at one point, but these days the standard color for Dimarzios is black. Double cream is no longer a legitimate trademark, in the sense of the term. And if UPS had vans of every color in the rainbow their trademark on the brown vans would be bull**** as well.

Dimarzio's bid to get chrome bobbins trademarked was denied.
Thank god.
 

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Wow, this is a rough crowd.

I hope Larry wins his case. He filed for the trademark, no one contested it and it was granted. Good for him. That's how it works. I guess I'm on "Team Larry", as weird as that sounds. I believe in his right to defend his trademark.
I also believe in intellectual property and I also believe in private property.

On another note, I have never known Larry DiMarzio to be a "Scumbag" as someone has stated. Have you ever talked to Larry in person or on the phone?
 

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Thinking about potential pickup trademarks, could EMG have had a case for trademarking their clean black plastic pickups back in the day? That was a really distinctive look until Duncan started using it for Blackouts and I wonder if EMG could have trademarked it and kept Duncan from co-opting their look.
 

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Wow, this is a rough crowd.

I hope Larry wins his case. He filed for the trademark, no one contested it and it was granted. Good for him. That's how it works. I guess I'm on "Team Larry", as weird as that sounds. I believe in his right to defend his trademark.
I also believe in intellectual property and I also believe in private property.

On another note, I have never known Larry DiMarzio to be a "Scumbag" as someone has stated. Have you ever talked to Larry in person or on the phone?
I dont need to speak with him because actions speak much louder than words.

Copyrighting double cream bobbins and then suing people that use them is douchy.
 


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