I know that pickups make a difference but you can slightly notice the maple brightness in the video, both sound like Les Pauls obviously. Slab Specials, Juniors, etc will be pretty much the same as a 50s custom for example since both have complete mahogany bodies.Comparing a T-top equipped guitar and a modern PAF (attempt) is probably most of the difference you might hear. Need a like for like.
Plus (if I read it correctly) the OP is wanting to know what the slab body version is like compared to the full thickness guitar.
The slab body construction tends to be a little more focussed in the true mids. The low mids are a little softer. People call it 'barky' - as you get a lot of snarl. The SG goes even further here as the doublecut nature makes for less low end reproduction generally.
Add in the maple top, and the added mass as well as the wood species combination makes for a greater low mid 'authority'.
Of course there are individual guitars you could pick that might reverse this. But this is what you tend to find on average.
I have never tried to compare my guitars against each other, aside from the fact that I know they all sound differently. I just don't try to justify a tonal difference based on wood or the shape of the wood. I just don't care enough about it.
I never knew that, thanks.A flat slab of mahogany without a maple cap can be many different things.
Why do some people think all Les Pauls are single cuts?
An LP Junior or Special has a thicker body than an SG. The necks are also substantially beefier on the 50’s LP Juniors and Specials compared to the necks on any SG.
LP Specials have the neck pup further away from the bridge compared to an SG which makes the neck pup on the LP sound darker compared to an SG.
This.Our problems with these discussions come down to the horribly unscientific anecdotal ways of comparing.
Rarely are the guitars in question similar enough, and often we are hearing the difference in pickups as much or more than anything else. I like JDZ’s comment, which is about as close as our kind gets to a fair comparison, but the reality is we not only need the same two guitar builds, and the same pickups/strings, as well as the measured pickup heights, we also need multiple examples of each to discount the possibility of an anomalous build in the sample.
Realistically, you would need some guy like Trogly to pick up a good dozen of each for clickbait revenue to make something like that happen. Until then, we’ll all have our unshakable but unscientific anecdotal convictions (and I have been guilty as well A/Bing rosewood vs ebony in identical guitars w different pups).
If I ever win the lottery or have the resources, would love to hire a cheap but consistent builder to churn out several hundred identical guitars with wood type being the only variable that changes and do some comparisons between them. Would also need a consistent way to measure any tonal changes. Would have a machine do the strumming so it’s a consistent strum on each guitar, and may need to survey lots of guitarists and have it be a blinded study so those listening and doing the survey aren’t being biased in what they hear. Would also get some objective quantified measurements based on the recorded sound waves themselves. I’m surprised no one has done this, but I guess any big guitar company with the money and resources would have any reason to care, if anything they benefit from all this tone wood talk. And most scientists are probably busy with more pressing issues.
Well said! I’m genuinely shocked at how good he is in those. I’ve heard Paul Reed Smith has very fine tuned ears as well.id get Rob from Andertons…that dude can hear things I could never
‘I love the blindfolded videos where he nails it Pretty much every time
I could see the book matching being done more for aesthetic purposes than tonal. The 59 looked pretty with that flame top. But they were plain maple tops before then. So who knows.Whether we can hear the difference or not Les and Ted McCarty must have heard something or why else would they have bothered?
Surely making the lp from one material is easier than adding a maple cap, latterly a book matched piece of maple.