Custom Shop Question, a short(er) scale guitar?

[ARandall]

First of all, the Long Scale is not a Baritone. The Long Scale is a 25.5" scale. When they do the Baritone, it's got a 28" scale.

The last limited edition model I bought was the 2013 Ebony Custom Lite, and there were 250 of those produced. When they hit the dealers and I was looking for the best deal I went online and contacted everyone - Sweetwater, Musicians Friend, Guitar Center, Sam Ash, Rainbow Guitars, Wildwood Guitars, etc. I remember how many each of those stores had in stock at the time.

When the Long Scale came out this year I was seriously thinking about getting one. Again I hit the online dealers, took note of their inventory and made the same inquiries. Each dealer had a few less Long Scales than what they had in those Custom Lites, which is why I estimate the run to be less than 250 and probably in the 100-200 range.

Is it exact? No. But it's an educated guess based on a comparison to a model that was made with a fixed production number.

But I'm really looking forward to your explanation of how you came about the 10,000 number. And please be specific with the exact tooling costs and profit margin on each guitar and whatever else you might know.

Great, so you've explored 10% of the market worldwide. Good thing you're not trying to be a statistician, you be VERY thin and living under a newspaper.

A CS guitar has a superb price increase and less automation, so less units needed. Needless to say, given we were both miles out, at least mine was guess and a deliberate exaggeration to make a point, rather than a poorly researched conclusion.

 

[starscream]

Great, so you've explored 10% of the market worldwide. Good thing you're not trying to be a statistician, you be VERY thin and living under a newspaper.

A CS guitar has a superb price increase and less automation, so less units needed. Needless to say, given we were both miles out, at least mine was guess and a deliberate exaggeration to make a point, rather than a poorly researched conclusion.

You're ridiculous. First of all you said they wouldn't make something like that because they would have to make 10,000 units, then when I point out they did make it, somehow in an effort to save embarrassment, you turn this on me like something I said is wrong. And pat yourself on the back in the process saying we're both miles off but you were exaggerating to make a point. No, I'm not that far off, and you are clueless, it's that simple. You want to prove me wrong, stop hiding behind insults and email the custom shop and ask how many they made.

 

[skysc]

I like short scale guitar .. but i dont think i would suggest a 24.75 scale like a les paul to be shorter scale. Intonation is almost impossible unless you tune to A .

I had a few short scale guitars .

- Squier Mini : i heavyly modded it .. tuner , pikcups , bridge , nut etc.. .. it was good for travel and was light . 22.75 scale

- Fender strat JR 2004 : a special limited edition of a MIM fender strat with a junior body and 22.75 scale . their expensive , impossible to find .. and arent better than the squier mini IMO .


- Fender MIM Duo-sonic 1993 : DIdnt like it that much , but its available as a short scale guitar 22.75 but they also make regular scale .

- Jay turser mini paul : this one as a regualr scale on a small body .. i believe in didnt have a trust rod ... and it should .


Anyway ... intonation is always a problem with short scale guitar . i put .52 strings on my squier mini to give it a decent string tension is Standard tuning .

my reocmmendation would be a squier mini . with a few mod ... they can make great travel guitar .

I invest couple hundreds trying all the solution of short scale .. and im not happy playing 24.75 of a Les paul .


but a squier mini is fun .

i wouldnt invest the price of going custom shop for a 10 000 $ + for a short scale . 100 $ guitar with 100 $ of mod and your set .

 

[rb7]

As long as the "base" guitar has a neck equal to or greater in size than what you want, I can pattern it after any neck currently in your possession.

By the way how is this done precisely? I mean for curiosity's sake.

But as I mentioned I wouldn't alter the neck on an existing guitar. I was thinking about what it would be like to eventually add a guitar with a narrower neck or a shorter scale. Sure one could specifically buy a different guitar for such modding.

Anyway ... intonation is always a problem with short scale guitar . i put .52 strings on my squier mini to give it a decent string tension is Standard tuning .

my reocmmendation would be a squier mini . with a few mod ... they can make great travel guitar .

I invest couple hundreds trying all the solution of short scale .. and im not happy playing 24.75 of a Les paul .


but a squier mini is fun .

i wouldnt invest the price of going custom shop for a 10 000 $ + for a short scale . 100 $ guitar with 100 $ of mod and your set .

I saw the Squier mini somewhere. Also, I heard that the intonation could be an issue. So 11's in standard tuning for the string tension to be ok? That's a heavy string gauge. :/

Regarding the Custom Shop, what I meant was if the custom guitar would be near a price of a "regular" Custom Shop guitar for this idea which well, obviously wouldn't be the case. Of course that the Custom Shop idea would be ridiculously expensive and unpractical even if possible. The 10,000 mentioned was an exaggeration. I will try some short scales when possible.




Thanks for the info.

 

[RRfireblade]

By the way how is this done precisely? I mean for curiosity's sake.

But as I mentioned I wouldn't alter the neck on an existing guitar. I was thinking about what it would be like to eventually add a guitar with a narrower neck or a shorter scale. Sure one could specifically buy a different guitar for such modding.

I take the profile specs off an existing neck and and model it in CAD. Then I can CNC that profile onto any other neck (with enough material).

After finishing, no one could tell it was ever done. It'll look like it came from the factory. I did a PRS once a while back that went back to PRS for an unrelated warranty issue and they thought the modcat was wrong and corrected it.

 

[rb7]

I take the profile specs off an existing neck and and model it in CAD. Then I can CNC that profile onto any other neck (with enough material).

After finishing, no one could tell it was ever done. It'll look like it came from the factory. I did a PRS once a while back that went back to PRS for an unrelated warranty issue and they thought the modcat was wrong and corrected it.

That's interesting

 

[Left Paw]

A short scale is generally 22" or less. Standard Gibson scale is 24.27".