I'm just trying to keep up with the maturity level of these threads.
Go show the forum how much of a man you are and start another thread about alcohol.
I pay for my own healthcare through my job - Kaiser an HMO plan. I don't smoke (I quit). I very rarely drink and then only in small amounts. Whenever I get a check up, they tell me everything is fine. I still get exercise (but not as hard as I used to). Back then (in my late 40s to early 50s) I could still do 1-handed push-ups and 1-leg squats.Well, that's the thing. If I'm gonna have to pay for your healthcare, I'm gonna need you to take better care of yourself.
That's the cupboard that the healthcare opened. Imagine we were hard core commie. Everyone pays and gets the exact same, no private insurance. At that point, heck yeah I am gonna make a law banning smoking. Call it conservative values in a commie environment.
Not unlike chronic adrenaline junkies that are always getting themselves stranded and need emergency evacuations from rugged terrain. Might cost $100,000 to get them down. Should they have to pay for that? I think so, but then where do you draw the line of a legitimately necessary rescue operation. Where do you draw the line of healthcare, in a commie environment. Manditory exercise programs, acai berry fitness stuff?
I know you guys have heard all of these arguments. The more our society is highly dependent on each other, the more that each individuals livelyhood is intertwined, the more it is intertwined. It's a downward sprial. Have fun at the manditory exercise programs, I'm gonna ditch class on that one.
Bullshit...when your "personal responsibilities" wind up, in the long run, draining the system of money to provide healthcare then it become much more than "the nanny state is telling us how to live our lives meow meow meow !!! "
you can't have it both ways
Personally I don't think "socialism" is a bad word. I remember first learning about it in high school, the catholic high school i went to. It seemed right in line, to me, with all the things i was learning about jeebus...then again i fell for the jeebus bullshit too. Still don't think socialism is such a bad thing
I fnid it strange that people are complaining that someone hurting their hearing puts a drain on the system and they think that by the system paying to educate and regulate it is any less of a drain.
Socialism isn't such a bad thing? There is a reason why the list of current socialist nations is smaller than the list of previously socialist nations.
Education and prevention are less expensive than treatment and care. Since this is being funded by the Dept of Health's fundraising arm, something that is designed for prevention and education programs like this, I don't see it as a drain at all.
He didn't say Socialism isn't a bad thing, he said it isn't a bad word. There's a difference between the way something is in theory and the way it is practiced in the real world. I can see why people, especially the less fortunate, would be attracted to the idea of Socialism, but I know that I don't want to live in a Socialist society.
Now Bloomcvnt is fvcking up coffee!
Who drinks coffee with sugar anyway?
I guess everyone should do things your way...