classic rock marshall to go with les paul

[st.bede]

I built a head box for the amp out of my JCM800 1x12 combo, I use it with a tall Fender cab (2x15 JBL). Works great. Plus it's only a 5 min job to toss it back into the combo if I need it.

tha looks killer....can we get some clips? (I think I might want to do the same) How do those 15s work with the head?

 

[st.bede]

any feedback on the haze or jvm 100 watt 2*12 cab would be appreciated as to their classic rock vibe

I have to say, that when I sat down and played a haze (for five minutes) I was not too happy but, it was far from a critical assesment. I was interested in a different piece of gear, then the haze.

Now, I really liked the JVM head 410H (did not try a combo). I beived that it did get very close to the classic marshall tones. IMHO it sounded a tad off but, I belive that I would be very happy using one. The only reason I did not get it was because I only really "need" three marshall tones: jtm45, plexi, jcm800...

I would suggest taking a look at a Winefield Thomas amp...I have the 18watt head and it gets a great british type tone...some people think it is very pelxi like but, I think it has a vox vibe to it but still very marshally...not enough head room and it has not like 5150 tubes or 12ay7 (I am drawing a blank on the tube maker...but, they make a bunch of tubes and are typically perfectly fine)... I also have yet to try some really good tubes so I am still hoping to get the amp a bit tamer...

 

[Boleskinehouse]

Depends on how loud you can get.

 

[nick1962]

I would have thought the Vintage Modern 2266C 50 watt combo was a good choice, depending on how you like your classic rock.

I second that!

 

[lp_junkie]

I am a crackhead, the DSL401 is 40 watts, I was thinking of my 1/2 stack when I said 100 watts...............

It's still loud and sounds great though.

 

[qwank]

I am a crackhead, the DSL401 is 40 watts, I was thinking of my 1/2 stack when I said 100 watts...............

It's still loud and sounds great though.

so how does the 401 sound pushing two 4x12's? is it enough watts?

 

[xguitardevilx]

I'm a huge JCM 900 fan. It gets all the cool 800 tones and has lots more gain if you need it.

+1000
I think the only reason why everyone favors the 800 is because that's what the famous bands were playing before the 900's even came out. I tried a vintage 2203 JCM 800 next to the JCM 900 I bought and I thought.. This 800 has no gain compared to the 900. Could be that I'm a metal player, but I also like classic rock and blues. In the end I went with the 900 because IMO you can get all the 800 has to offer out of the 900 plus more. As long as it's an earlier 900 and not something like the SLX. Then you just get mushy digital sounding loud gain.

 

[Boleskinehouse]

+1000
I think the only reason why everyone favors the 800 is because that's what the famous bands were playing before the 900's even came out. I tried a vintage 2203 JCM 800 next to the JCM 900 I bought and I thought.. This 800 has no gain compared to the 900. Could be that I'm a metal player, but I also like classic rock and blues. In the end I went with the 900 because IMO you can get all the 800 has to offer out of the 900 plus more. As long as it's an earlier 900 and not something like the SLX. Then you just get mushy digital sounding loud gain.

You've got it backwards. The SL-X is the only all tube signal path 900. The others are the ones with shitty gain. I've had both.

I kept the SL-X.

 

[AXE]

Marshall 2266C

 

[xguitardevilx]

You've got it backwards. The SL-X is the only all tube signal path 900. The others are the ones with shitty gain. I've had both.

I kept the SL-X.

In my experience with the SLX I thought it sounded way too digital compared to my 900. I have the first year 900.

 

[Boleskinehouse]

In my experience with the SLX I thought it sounded way too digital compared to my 900. I have the first year 900.

What's the model number? I had a 4100 Dual Reverb that sounded like shit. There is nothing digital sounding about my SL-X.

 

[xguitardevilx]

what's the model number?

2100
BTW the 4100 sounds like complete doo doo IMO. That's why I didn't get that either when I was trying out heads before i bought my 900.

 

[LedZepRulz]

I bought an sl-x cause I read somewhere that kiss used em on one of their tours, but I wasnt feelin it, so I sold it and got a jcm2000 tsl, which I can't recommend enough. The tsl does everything but play the geetar for ya.

 

[xguitardevilx]

I bought an sl-x cause I read somewhere that kiss used em on one of their tours, but I wasnt feelin it, so I sold it and got a jcm2000 tsl, which I can't recommend enough. The tsl does everything but play the geetar for ya.

TSL is definitely nice, that was another close pick for me before I bought the 900.

 

[Boleskinehouse]

2100
BTW the 4100 sounds like complete doo doo IMO. That's why I didn't get that either when I was trying out heads before i bought my 900.

SL-Xs have the same model number. 2100 is the 100 watter and 2500 is the 50. Same knobs, same signal path. And they like to be cranked..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8rcjGGKkSI]YouTube - Just a jam[/ame]

A nearly dimed SL-X 2100.

 

[xguitardevilx]

SL-Xs have the same model number. 2100 is the 100 watter and 2500 is the 50. Same knobs, same signal path. And they like to be cranked..

YouTube - Just a jam

A nearly dimed SL-X 2100.

Yeah, there's a lot of confusion between the original 2100 and the SL-X 2100. It's not the same amp. Trust me. The SL-X's were made further down the road.

 

[Boleskinehouse]

Yeah, there's a lot of confusion between the original 2100 and the SL-X 2100. It's not the same amp. Trust me. The SL-X's were made further down the road.

There is a slight difference in the schematics, yes. '92 was the last year for the original 2100, the SL-X came in '93. Mine is a '93. All I can guess is that you tried a shitty SL-X. I love mine to death.

 

[imsilly]

For classic rock tones don't limit yourself to a Marshall, especially if you want go for a combo. The reality is that the really great Marshall amps are all painfully expensive and loud. So they aren't worth the effort unless you have a massive budget and sound proof walls.

If you have to go Marshall remember a lot of their reissues and modern amps aren't really that good. The boutique amp makers will beat them hands down every time. Though I would suggest a look at the recent 1974x combo reissue. I found an original one and it was outstanding, so if the reissue is faithful to the original you would be onto a winner. It looks fantastic, it's circuit is built onto a handwired tagboard, it doesn't have a master volume (that on the whole sound horrible) and it has a classic Marshall voice. That is more then I can say for most modern Marshalls.

The reality is that you'll find far better amps if you look beyond the Marshall brand if you are looking outside the pre-1973 vintage market.

 

[Boleskinehouse]

Also, a lot of SL-Xs came with 5881s... EL34s are the way to go..

The extra pre-amp just gives it more gain if you want it, but there's no need to use it all.

 

[xguitardevilx]

There is a slight difference in the schematics, yes. '92 was the last year for the original 2100, the SL-X came in '93. Mine is a '93. All I can guess is that you tried a shitty SL-X. I love mine to death.

Yeah you're probably right. my 2100 is the 1990 one I believe. The very first year for the original 2100 and I couldn't find a better amp and believe me..I tried. JCM 800, 900 SL-x, 900 4100, 2000 dsl, tsl, vintage modern. The only amp I liked better was a vintage MKII from 1969, but that was $3000 for just the head.