CC#7 vs '13 R8+HM

[Sct13]

it is an R0.....yes but its got an R8 Neck.....

 

[RAG7890]

it is an R0.....yes but its got an R8 Neck.....

............are you sure, I thought it would be classified as an R0 with a transition neck; i.e. ~ very late '59 through to ~ early '60 the necks gradually became thinner.

A true R8 neck is huge by these standards, due to Historics never really following Vintage neck shapes / profiles until maybe 2009 onwards.

By Vintage neck shapes / profiles I am talking the mean range not the odd one outs.

 

[Sct13]

............are you sure, I thought it would be classified as an R0 with a transition neck; i.e. ~ very late '59 through to ~ early '60 the necks gradually became thinner.

A true R8 neck is huge by these standards, due to Historics never really following Vintage neck shapes / profiles until maybe 2009 onwards.

By Vintage neck shapes / profiles I am talking the mean range not the odd one outs.

To clarify:

It "felt" like a larger R8 neck, I do know it's an R0.

I can't move on the one that is hanging in a local shop yet. I did play it and it fit m fat hand very well. I compared it with another Murphy aged R9 that is/was there, and it felt larger.

"we wants the precious"

Probably a transitional as you mentioned.

 

[mfolet]

???

What specific product specifications does a Shanks possess that would result in it sounding any more Strat- or Tele-like than any "other" Les Paul reissue?

The pickups are under wound, bridge is 7.2-7.4kohm.

 

[Alexsky1]

If you're going to do an HM, go the whole hog. The difference between the cheaper package and RDS is about $1800.

Buy a lower priced used 2012 or earlier R8 or R9 that you like and you save about $1500 over a new 2013. Go for the RDS with boutique pickups of your choice and I think you are still ahead. Then you get the whole enchilada of vintage nitro, BRW fretboard, hardware, no truss rod sheath, hide glue in the neck pocket and between fretboard and neck, etc.

Makes no sense for me to do an HM and not go for Brazilian fretboard. If hide glue means a lot to you, note that 2013 R8s and R9s do NOT use hide glue between the fretboard and neck. That will be saved for Gibson's "the next level" in 2014!

PS I am cool with the 2013s. They play well and sound great and that's all that matters to me.

I could not agree more. Get a used 2012 R8 for about $3000 and have Kim do the RDS on it. It will cost about the same as a collector choice and I am most certain that you will like it better because you can give Kim the neck specs that you want, and it will be built to a higher standard with a Braz board. HOWEVER. Do this with the mindset that this guitar will be one that you will keep. If you buy a CC you should be able to sell it for close to what you paid. You probably will not be able to get what you put into the RDS guitar. Having said that - I would do the RDS Makeover on a cheap R8. You could buy CC after CC and not like the neck or something else.

Also think about this - how many of Kim's guitars have you ever seen for sale? Maybe it is me but I have not seen ANY and there is a reason for this. His guitars are SO GOOD that few if any people will ever part with them. I will keep mine forever.

 

[Avenue U Guitars]

The pickups are under wound, bridge is 7.2-7.4kohm.

So if you put pickups with similar resistance readings into a "regular" (i.e., non-CC) Les Paul reissue, would it sound equally Tele- and Strat-like?

 

[Gemini75]

To clarify:

It "felt" like a larger R8 neck, I do know it's an R0.

I can't move on the one that is hanging in a local shop yet. I did play it and it fit m fat hand very well. I compared it with another Murphy aged R9 that is/was there, and it felt larger.

"we wants the precious"

Probably a transitional as you mentioned.

It's more of a transition neck just in the happy middle of a 59 and 60. Feels perfect in my hands! Best guitar in my collection hands down.

 

[Sct13]

I may go and "visit" it again tomorrow. I think having a 58, 59 and a 60' will be all I need.

 

[alane011]

Just sold my '05 HM RDS to Europe for a good price. Kim's crew does great work and Kim bends over backwards to please. I do think some of the CCs are also special (I got my Shanks pretty cheaply) - its all good...

 

[Alexsky1]

Just sold my '05 HM RDS to Europe for a good price. Kim's crew does great work and Kim bends over backwards to please. I do think some of the CCs are also special (I got my Shanks pretty cheaply) - its all good...

Do you still have any pictures of it? I would like to see what you sold. I have been looking hard at that CC#8 The Beast and I love everything about it except I am worried that the neck might have too much shoulder for my liking. Otherwise it is a great looking guitar.

 

[mfolet]

So if you put pickups with similar resistance readings into a "regular" (i.e., non-CC) Les Paul reissue, would it sound equally Tele- and Strat-like?

There is more to it than that.The Shanks and the Beast has a density to it that is more so than any other reissue to date.You can feel it.It is different and combined with the pickups ,there is that tone.

 

[Sct13]

I agree, although /I do not yet....own a Shanks, I spent some time with one and its considerably different to any of my historics. And I have had a few. The pickups felt beefier to me than the 13' I played that day.

 

[alane011]

Do you still have any pictures of it? I would like to see what you sold. I have been looking hard at that CC#8 The Beast and I love everything about it except I am worried that the neck might have too much shoulder for my liking. Otherwise it is a great looking guitar.

I have over 30 pics at photobucket (go to second page for outside pics):

R9 Historic Makeover Photos by alane011 | Photobucket

 

[Alexsky1]

I have over 30 pics at photobucket (go to second page for outside pics):

R9 Historic Makeover Photos by alane011 | Photobucket

that looks really nice. It's unusual to see somebody sell a HM guitar.

 

[alane011]

that looks really nice. It's unusual to see somebody sell a HM guitar.

Ive seen them for sale here and on ebay on occasion. There aren't that many so on an absolute basis you may be right..