Can this out-of-phase mod be done?

SpinWheelz

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Here's the idea:
1 humbucker at the neck
1 single coil at the bridge
1 volume control
1 tone control
1 3-way switch

Can the humbucker be modded to be out of phase, using a push-pull pot? If not a push-pull pot, could a 4-way switch assign one position put the pickups out of phase?

If so, got any wiring help?

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It would be easier to flip the polarity of the single coil.
 

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asingle coil and a full humbucker ( if untweaked ) would not get a nice OOP sound together. Too disimilar to sound good IMHO.
 

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You should try it first before condemning. I had a tele that sounded great with SC and humbucker out of phase. The SC was a standard jap tele neck pickup, the humbucker was a Gibson 57 classic (so the other way round to you). SC phase was flipped on a push/pull volume knob, there are plenty of wiring diagrams for this. Another one I should never have sold...
 

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So, no to reverse phasing the humbucker but yes to doing it to the single coil? It's likely that I suck at googling, but if someone could point me towards a wiring diagram, that would be quite helpful.

Thanks!
 

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Here's the idea:
1 humbucker at the neck
1 single coil at the bridge
1 volume control
1 tone control
1 3-way switch

Can the humbucker be modded to be out of phase, using a push-pull pot? If not a push-pull pot, could a 4-way switch assign one position put the pickups out of phase?

If so, got any wiring help?

Cheers.

That's an easy one...yes...4-conductor wiring on your Neck humbucker on a push/pull for out of phase...

Or, flip the magnet in the humbucker for 'permanent' Out-of-Phase-ness...

Or, some companies pickups are wired out of phase with another...simply swap the 'hot' & 'ground' wires on one of the pickups...


Both my Tele's are wired for out-of-phase operation with humbuckers in the neck position--one with the magnet flipped, and the other (a FilterTron) with the wires switched.
 

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That could very possibly sound terrible. I've got a Schecter with two completely different humbuckers and even those sound like absolute ASS out of phase. Like very clunky and tinny.
 

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Only way to know for sure is to try it... :naughty:


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Here's the roadmap:

Guitar Wiring Site

Phase reversal through a DPDT switch is near the bottom of the first page.

Doesn't matter which pickup you put out of phase, it sounds the same, just easier to do the single coil.

I don't think you'll get what you want from a 4 position switch, you can make them do series/parallel easy enough, but I don't think you'll get one to swap the phase.

Liam
 

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