Can anyone verify this Greco?

[Oldskoolrob]

Hey Groovers,
Can anyone tell me if this Greco looks legit? Hoping to go and have a look in person but I know SFA about Grecos'. Would like to know if it IS a Jeff Beck re-issue or a mock-up.....?? Cheers, Rob.

 

[Oldskoolrob]

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mountain-creek/guitars-amps/greco-jeff-beck-54-style-les-paul-1977/1265892049


I've seen other listings as EG500, EG600 and EG800....any idea how to tell which is which?

 

[LP1865]

Looks legit, but the wraparound I'm not sure about

 

[Oldskoolrob]

You'd have to be pretty a hardcore Beck fan to modify one and remove the bridge wouldn't you? I'm just trying to get in contact with the seller and also see what level model it is (500/600/800). Fingers crossed I get to have a look. NGD upcoming? Possibly......lol

 

[LocoTex]

I like that it has a wraptail.

 

[BadMongo]

Admittedly I don't know the specifics of the Jeff Beck ones but that seems steep for a chambered late 70s one I think?

 

[Oldskoolrob]

It's in kangaroo tokens, not USD....it is a little high, which is why I'm trying to see if it's a 500/600/800, Apparently they did them in these series....

 

[Grenville]

"Chambered" on a 1977 guitar, I don't think so.

I think the seller means it's a hollow/pressed birch ply top over multi piece body, which would be a 500 or less.

 

[Ph03n1x]

By the serial #, that is a '77. There is a sticky here with catalogues. I don't think there was a 500 version in 77 but there was possibly in other years. My guess would be that it was an EG600J but I don't know if there is any way to tell it apart from the 800.

The pickup is stamped 17527 but I don't know what that means. From this pic of the 77 cat, it looks like the 600 came with U1000 pickups. Also the 600 looks like it had tulip style tuners whereas the 800 had more rounded Grover style. The pic isn't super clear though. There are probably more clear copies of the catalogue.

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever had any luck with translating Kanji to english from image files ?

 

[Oldskoolrob]

I agree - from what I've found on various other ones I can find the 500/600 had the kluson/tulip style and the 700/800 had the grover style (?). Seller says that he thinks it's chambered - is that any kind of indication which model it might be? I've sent him a message to go and have a look. Just waiting on a reply. Don't know if chambering is a deal-breaker, will have to see it in person!

 

[jimmyjames]

I was looking at that one a day or two ago. Some reading of other forums' posts indicated Gibson Beck models weighing in just over 9 1/2 lbs. Would appear the Gibs aren't chambered...

 

[jimmyjames]

Nor were the 800Js https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/ngd-greco-eg800j-jeff-beck.445719/

 

[Grenville]

Like I said, "chambering" wasn't part of LP weight relief vocabulary in 1977, for Gibsons or copies.

By "chambered" the seller probably means it has the lower-spec copy thing Fujigen did, a pressed ply top over multiple piece body with a gap between the top and the body.

I think you'd find this on the bolt-neck Ibanez LP types, for example, and set-neck Grecos of 500 or below.

A photo of one of the pickup cavities would be helpful!

 

[jimmyjames]

I'd pass on that one.

 

[Oldskoolrob]

Someone else has put a deposit on it, so off the table for now....but I've learnt a lot!!!

 

[BadMongo]

Someone else has put a deposit on it, so off the table for now....but I've learnt a lot!!!

Honestly start checking out the auctions - if you want an old Greco, there are definitely deals to be had. Here's (what I think is) an EG700 from '78 in good condition with HSC that went for 30,000 JPY:

https://www.jauce.com/auction/r457931706

And the hollow lower end ones from that era can be had for less (I got one yesterday for 10,500 and I think a couple have gone for under 25,000 today) and pop up all the time.

 

[Oldskoolrob]

I'm a bit 'iffy' about buying overseas - especially at the moment. Taxes and shipping add up, too.

Just saw it locally so thought it might be worth closer inspection.

 

[64F100]

I had an 800j that weighed over 10 lbs and the pickups were stamped PU-O. It was a 77, less than 1000 from this one's serial number.

 

[Oldskoolrob]

Looks like oldmate that put down the deposit might not be buying the guitar....
What can we tell from this pic - pancake body?? Mirante or 'Asian mahogany'?

I also asked him about how he know's it's chambered. Does that look like a laminate top? Hard to tell for me....

 

[Oldskoolrob]

Just got more pictures. It's virtually hollow with a pressed laminate top. NOT what I'm looking for.