Building the new Tor

[Dun Ringill]

It's funny years ago people used to laugh that I'd tape over my cameras. ..now a lot of people are doing it.

Band Aids work pretty good too!

 

[sapounov]

My mother taught me, that if you live your life cleanly, nobody will ever have an opportunity to use it to bring you down.

I totally agree with You Bill, bu we're under surveillance anyway. Regardless of how we are living :-(

BTW. May be american government doing this almost illegaly, but our government (russia) doing it absolutely according to law ! Yes, we have a laws that allow to doing that .

 

[sk8rat]

interesting though how many people think it's all conspiracy theory and it isn't really happening

its a matter of balance. often times people who do believe these things get overwhelmed with their ideas and begin to discredit themselves by bridging gaps and jumping to conclusions.

to think "they" would never lie to us is naive in every sense of the word. I have seen it here, someone says something that has merit and others just say "yeah right", or "its all a lie", ect... where is the proof it isnt happening? not saying it is or isnt but why just brush it off.... they just dont believe it because they dont want to.

still, if they truly had all the power to do what a lot of conspiracy theorist believe we would be under their thumb completely by now.

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

too bad we can't discuss a certain email server in a certain someones basement.

 

[Tone deaf]

that's such BS man, seriously.

You don't mind if I read all your mail? Peek through your windows whenever I want? Watch you bang your wife through the web-cam without your knowledge or permission? I can just walk into your house and touch all your things and do whatever I want because you have nothing to hide?

People have a right to privacy. Period.

Humans are not even built to live under constant surveillance. It drives people crazy.

Maybe. However, I'm not sure any of that is actually happening. Are you?

There's a very easy way to search for unsecure video cams and watch them. You can see business security cams, cams watching vacation homes, living rooms, bedrooms, you name it.

The fact that the govt collects virtually every bit of data possible isn't a conspiracy theory. It is a fact. They don't have the processing power to interpret it all but, they are combing through it with some pretty sophisticated combs...

I worked on a technology (private sector) that would essentially watch every click stream going through an ISP, in real-time, and use it for predicting individual and group behaviors...that was 11 years ago.

With the work stuff (technology, security, defense, intelligence-gathering tech, etc), that I have done (again, all private sector) it is hard to communicate electronically about it without hitting a lot of hot buttons for govt attention. While I am sure that my email and attachments have been searched and possibly reviewed, I have never been contacted by law enforcement of any sort (because all of my work is 100% legit).

Everyone thinks that there is a right to "privacy." There isn't. There are rights against unlawful search and seizure and rights to ones intellectual and physical properties but, not specifically a right to "privacy." That said, there are lots of laws protecting one's privacy (rights and laws are similar but, not the same). The individual has the primary responsibility for safeguarding his/her own privacy. At the same time, we as citizens must demand strict adherence to, and freedom to exercise, all of our Constitutional rights (whether you like them all or only like some), because they are the only things between us and lives of servitude.

 

[SteveC]

No one cares anymore. The 60's are over.

These days, we the people (sic) only care about the latest viral whatever. And, at that, our attention spans are only as long as the next sound bite, tweet, or pix. What used to be absorbed as outrage, is now only the latest blip, giving way to the next blip.

And, truth told... I really don't give a flying F either. I have better things to do, than worry about or, try to change the world any longer. I'm tired. My family is really all that matters to me and the rest of this sh*thole society can go ****.

Now, get off my lawn!

 

[KP]

Sorry. I'll go back to the illuminati

You are welcome to contact us at any time.

 

[KP]

too bad we can't discuss a certain email server in a certain someones basement.

Huge Like

 

[Mark V Guitars]

http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2...ithstands-next-generation-state-surveillance/


I found this part interesting,

"In 2014, the US government paid Carnegie Mellon University to run a series of poisoned Tor relays to de-anonymise Tor users. A 2015 research paper outlined an attack effective, under certain circumstances, at decloaking Tor hidden services (now rebranded as "onion services"). Most recently, 110 poisoned Tor hidden service directories were discovered probing .onion sites for vulnerabilities, most likely in an attempt to de-anonymise both the servers and their visitors."


It really amazes me how much our Gvt is working hard to break the internet and snoop on every living man woman and child in the world.

I hope when the Snowden movie comes out and people realize someone has been in their phone listening, in their computer copying, watching them through their cameras,..they'll be massive outrage.

.....I don't think it'll happen because people are lazy as f**k. But I hope the movie will open some eyes at how far they've gone. I know a lot of people don't read or pay attention,..or don't know anything about Snowden other than, "OMG traitor!" ... but I hope the movie opens some eyes. People are receptive to movies.

Cell phones are cool but it's easy to forget you're carrying around a camera and microphone that can see and hear everything you do.

...which wouldn't be a big deal if it weren't for the fact there are people who have a full time job of watching and listening to what you do.


Anyway interesting article and I wish them luck. People have a right to privacy.


I also find it interesting that hacking is illegal,...unless the Gvt is doing it.



the fact the trailer has almost 8 million views gives me hope people are starting to pay attention though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSAiI3xMh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X41bfQa7xFQ

Agree 150%.

Problem is, most people don't care, and think it's all just a conspiracy theory, much like the "zika" vaccine and others.

Woops, like you alreayd said above. Like minds and all that...

 

[Fiat Lux]

I hear ya...

That is the biggest issue - LAZY and are SHEEP

Exactly!!1. People = sheeple....

Except me. I'm an independent thinker. Oh, and my wife, she is too... and Mal! Mal's not sheeple. And Lt Dave isn't sheeple. And none of the posters in this thread are sheeple, you are all independent thinkers....

And MLP people aren't sheeple. Neither is Zuckerberg... No, Sir! And my good friends aren't sheeple, I can vouch for them. And their families...

Cheers

 

[DotStudio]

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

Exactly!!1. People = sheeple....

Except me. I'm an independent thinker. Oh, and my wife, she is too... and Mal! Mal's not sheeple. And Lt Dave isn't sheeple. And none of the posters in this thread are sheeple, you are all independent thinkers....

And MLP people aren't sheeple. Neither is Zuckerberg... No, Sir! And my good friends aren't sheeple, I can vouch for them. And their families...

Cheers

Speak for yourself, I'm sheeple
Nothing to hide
God bless America
These colors don't run
My blood is red, white, and blue
Baseball, apple pie, and loving your mom
I love Facebook, Google, and the Kardashians
Cant wait for the next episode of Modern Family and The Walking Dead
I want more of my taxes spent on military funding
I have a Richard Nixon Keychain and I'm driving a Ford
Just getting ready to head to Wall Mart for a 6 pack of beer called, 'America'
Yee Haw

....no reason to investigate further.

 

[Fiat Lux]

Speak for yourself, I'm sheeple
Nothing to hide
God bless America
These colors don't run
My blood is red, white, and blue
Baseball, apple pie, and loving your mom
I love Facebook, Google, and the Kardashians

....no reason to investigate further.

Nice try Mal, but the stars 'n stripes tape on your laptop camera gives you away....

Cheers

 

[nauc]

"I hope when the Snowden movie comes out and people realize someone has been in their phone listening, in their computer copying, watching them through their cameras,..they'll be massive outrage"

yah right. ever seen this

this was good too

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_Ik7OppEI[/ame]

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

Band Aids work pretty good too!

Band Aids are racist if they don't come in ebony colors

Why do you hate America?

 

[LPMarshall Hack]

I love Modern Family!

 

[MikeyTheCat]

The Big G in DC has been doing this for years, and it wasn't all that big a secret even before Snowden. Now you have a second Big G called Google that does the same thing as the first Big G. Think about the extra information people were handing over just with Pokeman alone. This is government in action.
Same as it ever was...

 

[nauc]

The Big G in DC has been doing this for years, and it wasn't all that big a secret even before Snowden. Now you have a second Big G called Google that does the same thing as the first Big G. Think about the extra information people were handing over just with Pokeman alone. This is government in action.
Same as it ever was...

yah, but Google doesnt throw people in jail or turn over info to the G without taking many steps to make sure the user isnt taken advantage of

and look what Apple did to the FBI over that terrorists iPhone

big companies do fight for us. they might even change the G in the end to be a better G. its pretty cool if you think about it. when has the G gotten so much pushback in the past

 

[MikeyTheCat]

you'd be surprised how close the two Gs work together.

 

[sk8rat]

The Big G in DC has been doing this for years, and it wasn't all that big a secret even before Snowden. Now you have a second Big G called Google that does the same thing as the first Big G. Think about the extra information people were handing over just with Pokeman alone. This is government in action.
Same as it ever was...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0K5s7-k9cs[/ame]