Blue Screen...and discerning new PC build.

[Rich]

Before I bought my machine several months ago, I looked at SS drives and, from what I researched, they're not quite there as far as reliability goes. I still considered going for it since I keep my data on a separate physical drive but, in the end, I needed a machine that is rock solid as my girlfriend needs to use it for job searching. If the job searching wasn't an issue, I might have gone for SS since data loss isn't an issue.

 

[orbm1]

Nice, what are you gonna do with it?

watch porn, what else?

 

[Nicky]

Let's see. My computers have on/off buttons, a mouse, some nice screens and a bunch of chips and wires and stuff somewhere inside.

You guys are speaking a different language, and it ain't Greek...more likely Geek.

 

[Rich]

You guys are speaking a different language, and it ain't Greek...more likely Geek.

My disk ain't floppy.

 

[Electric_Sunshine]

Yes...agreed.

By the way, cost is approx. $1140.00 w/o shipping from Newegg.com. That is, of course, with the Asus Sabertooth, not the Rampage III Black.

No way! Your stuff must be cheaper than ours! Way cheaper! That's a kickaxe build!

My upgrade will consist of a i5 2400, some $100 mobo and a Corsair Vengeance 4GB stick of RAM. Also a different CPU cooler than the one the 2400 comes with, which will cost about $39. All together that's costing me $400 or so, very jealous!

Also be sure, soon the Steam Summer Sale will be here and that'll be your time to buy games for that beastly rig!

 

[bildozr]

That's a nice build.

I'm gonna build a desktop soon. I'm running a high end laptop with multiple displays.
It's got enough computing power. But I'm trying to do the Developer thing. Using 2 virtual machines inside this one..

So it's time for a real tower.

 

[3rdstone]

I have a question for all you computer geniuses- will building one cost the same as buying one with comparable specs? Just curious.

Well I'm no computer genius, I just got tired of paying my local computer guy $100 to replace an $18 power supply, and 'clean up' any bad stuff that was slowing the thing down.

To you main question though: You probably could buy a pre-built that would compare, problem is, is all the pre loaded 'bloatware' and other things that slow it down...
The main benefit to building you own (as I see it) is that you get to choose exactly what components will go in it, and exactly what programs go on it...

 

[TeleDog]

Overkill? I don't think anything's overkill these days.... Overkill now, but not a couple hours after... technology moves so fast by the time you get to your truck from the store, the computer is obsolete!

And all that power can be put to some service... I just heard on NBC hackers shut down that Al Qaeda network!

 

[sixstrings]

So, what do my fellow MLP PC enthusiasts think?

IMHO, I think that the PC and MAC are a commodity now and spending money on unused horsepower is wasteful.

 

[cwness]

The SSD drives are still iffy like Rich pointed out. The last reviews I saw
did not show that big of improvement and for some things it was slower. I'm
waiting a bit longer. The Raptors are fast like SCSI at 10,000 RPM's and have put in 100's with no problems YET.

CW

 

[mtgguitar]

Let's see. My computers have on/off buttons, a mouse, some nice screens and a bunch of chips and wires and stuff somewhere inside.

You guys are speaking a different language, and it ain't Greek...more likely Geek.

Watch this and you will understand.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfLw16QU9qM]YouTube - ‪Building a Computer: Time Lapse Video‬‏[/ame]

 

[FrankieOliver]

IMHO, I think that the PC and MAC are a commodity now and spending money on unused horsepower is wasteful.

The horsepower I put in my computer will be utilized. Thank you.

 

[mtgguitar]

The horsepower I put in my computers will be utilized. Thank you.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeFiXnEBvBg&feature=related]YouTube - ‪1989 - FRANKIE OLIVER - MY WAY‬‏[/ame]

 

[LOVEROCK]

Could you get the same performance with a AMD Phenom II X6 1100T for a lot less money?

 

[FrankieOliver]

Could you get the same performance with a AMD Phenom II X6 1100T for a lot less money?

You tell me.

 

[Chicago John]

Intel Core i7-2600K is currently the same price and almost twice as high Passmark score, but your board/cpu choice allows good overclocking possibilities.

 

[FrankieOliver]

Thanks, Chicago John.

I picked up that processor last year when Tank Guys had a great run of D0 stepping chips, so I'll give it a go.

 

[TeleDog]

Just one little bit of advice getting ignored here.

Hardware is great, but you need to make sure your software base actually uses the hardware to its fullest, starting with the OS.

If you don't have an OS that actually employs all that good stuff the way it should, then your gains in performance will be marginal. Same for the apps you use the most.

Software drives the machine, no use having a 2 year old behind the wheel of a NASCAR.

It's all about one thing, loading an address into memory. That's ALL there is to computers, and bottlenecks are all over the place, and I don't mean the HD.

Some apps out there don't release the objects, so your loading up the same thing into RAM over and over and over and over.... longer strings for the Fetch, longer times, and all for absolutely no purpose. Do that long enough with lots of instances and you get a crappy app. It runs, but it runs slow, and that has nothing to do with the silicon, it's just bad software. Now understand it may not be the developer's fault, it might be the OS doesn't provide an effective mechanism to do this, or the mechanism might bee too complicated and the coder will just ignore it.... You can have the best machine, crappy software and a poor OS will make it all seem irrelevant.

 

[Electric_Sunshine]

Just one little bit of advice getting ignored here.

Hardware is great, but you need to make sure your software base actually uses the hardware to its fullest, starting with the OS.

If you don't have an OS that actually employs all that good stuff the way it should, then your gains in performance will be marginal. Same for the apps you use the most.

Software drives the machine, no use having a 2 year old behind the wheel of a NASCAR.

It's all about one thing, loading an address into memory. That's ALL there is to computers, and bottlenecks are all over the place, and I don't mean the HD.

Some apps out there don't release the objects, so your loading up the same thing into RAM over and over and over and over.... longer strings for the Fetch, longer times, and all for absolutely no purpose. Do that long enough with lots of instances and you get a crappy app. It runs, but it runs slow, and that has nothing to do with the silicon, it's just bad software. Now understand it may not be the developer's fault, it might be the OS doesn't provide an effective mechanism to do this, or the mechanism might bee too complicated and the coder will just ignore it.... You can have the best machine, crappy software and a poor OS will make it all seem irrelevant.

I see what you're saying, but maybe give some practical examples like...

'This OS will be worth it if such and such, but if you have so and so it will not be as good as OS#2'

 

[Rich]

I see what you're saying, but maybe give some practical examples like...

'This OS will be worth it if such and such, but if you have so and so it will not be as good as OS#2'

What're ya tryin' ta do? Start another Windows vs Mac war?