- May 16, 2010
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BTW, after watching the 1974 JB video above (posted by dynamohum), I realized finally that JB and Nigel Tuffnel from Spinal Tap are the same guy.
JB's sig is a replica of a guitar he plays, and that's why people buy them. They like Jeff, want something like what Jeff plays, and he (and Gibson) filled that desire. Do you really think someone on the verge of buying one is going to be dissuaded because of what Jeff said? Get serious. It's not like he compared them to Esteban's or something. It's well-known that Jeff primarily plays Strats. Don't you think people shelling out cash for his sig know this? (They probably OWN his Strat sig already...)With all due respect, I believe it is hypocritical. Those who bought the "Oxymoron" could have bought any LP they wanted given the price. They likely chose that one for a variety of reasons, most importantly the fact that JB endorsed it; plainly, they paid a big premium for the privilege. By criticizing the very guitar he endorses, JB becomes a hypocrite. How can he, in good faith, promote an instrument (exceedingly expensive or otherwise) which he admits is not the best? What does that say about his integrity other than that he's raking in a nice payday? It's unfair to those who purchased it. Had he made his comments during the period in which the Oxymoron was promoted initially, perhaps some or many would have been dissuaded from purchasing one.
<snip>I also see no hypocrisy at all in him saying what he did and having a sig model.</snip>
+1000<snip>If there's anyone who is in a position to speak about the relative pros and cons of different guitar designs, JB is surely one of them.
I love my LPs regardless of what Jeff Beck says, and I love Jeff's playing.JB can say and use what he likes, notwithstanding the fact that he's misguided and a hypocrite. I'd have more respect for him if he thought the Paul was a "sissy guitar" and didn't accept a huge endorsement deal from the Dark Side. That's what is truly annoying. Did he even bother to think about the suckers out there who paid big dough for his "Oxymoron" model? They're most likely the proud owners of a very expensive piece of wood lacking the cache for which they paid a premium now that JB disses his own model and, by implication, those who play it. If JB likes to use an easy to play, contoured, bolt-on-necked, whammy-barred piece of tree, then so be it. I'll stick to my Lester and be a very happy camper.
I can't view that link at the moment, but I wonder if that's the interview Mr Kossoff was referring to when he said this in 1976:
I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me. Single coils have such a stark clarity that mistakes are not hidden at all. While humbuckers can mask all manner of bad playing and technique.Of course it's all about the guitar you are accustomed to. Hendrix plays a flying V on the Isle of White video concert (I think it is that one), and he doesn't sound up to his usual greatness. What aspects of sloppiness he had developed by way of very forgiving single coils kind of show through on the humbuckers.
<snip>While JB used the product decades ago, he hasn't done so in a very, very long time.</snip>All through the years Beck has used Les Pauls now and then. Sometimes live and also here and there on his albums. He played a Burst at the 2010 Grammy Awards in January, playing a long solo in the classic Les Paul composition "How High The Moon".
In June this is happening;
JEFF BECK HONORS LES PAUL WITH TWO INTIMATE SHOWS
AT NEW YORKS IRIDIUM JAZZ CLUB
Supported by Gibson Guitar
THE IMELDA MAY BAND JOINS BECK FOR JUNE 8 & 9 SHOWS
Jeff Beck, Imelda May Honor Les Paul at the Grammys - Spinner
Rumours are that on his current tour both Oxbloods and Bursts will be played.
There is no criticism. Like i posted earlier what JB actually said, and what he actually meant has already been thoroughly discussed and is well documented earlier in the thread.<snip>My problem is that he criticizes that guitar in print while being a paid endorser for that same, very expensive item.</snip>
I don't think its a diss either. I take it that he's saying that it takes a skilled musician to get the full tonal sound from a LP which ultimately makes it a special guitar. I think its actually a compliment.I am not sure that I can find that statement offensive.
JB raises an interesting point. Les Pauls are easy for getting a handful of sounds - usually overdriven. Those are very forgiving tones, covering lots of sloppy mistakes -- why I loved my LP years ago when first playing electrics. But there are a lot of other tones in there not always easy to find and requiring a lot more skill to manage (usually more than I have).I don't think its a diss either. I take it that he's saying that it takes a skilled musician to get the full tonal sound from a LP which ultimately makes it a special guitar. I think its actually a compliment.
I guess an analogy would be... your everyday Joe getting in an Indy car and racing. He might be able to get the car to move but he cant "drive" the car.