Australia's Solution To Gun Violence

[BillB1960]

Yes, the Bill of 20 children massacred.
I get it!

No...you don't.

20 children were killed so some cowardly, stupid, insane f_ck could get his own Wiki page and a place in history as a monster because the MSM in this country can't bear not to be the firstest with the mostest news coverage even if it means puking out information that's completely inaccurate. This is the glorious 1st Amendment in action riffo...just another one of those "outdated" concepts that only applied in the 18th century.

20 children were killed because "Gun Free Zones" really means "Criminal Protection Zones".

20 children were killed because freedom isn't free, not by a long shot.

 

[Indyclone]

Guns don't kill people... ammunition does... and from what I hear the laws most likely to be talked about are limiting how much a weapon can hold at once, i.e. no large capacity magazines.
This could be done without an amendment.

 

[riffsmachine]

No...you don't.

20 children were killed so some cowardly, stupid, insane f_ck could get his own Wiki page and a place in history as a monster because the MSM in this country can't bear not to be the firstest with the mostest news coverage even if it means puking out information that's completely inaccurate. This is the glorious 1st Amendment in action riffo...just another one of those "outdated" concepts that only applied in the 18th century.

20 children were killed because "Gun Free Zones" really means "Criminal Protection Zones".

20 children were killed because freedom isn't free, not by a long shot.

That explains everything.
Wow! What a post!

 

[Skintaster]

Guns don't kill people... ammunition does... and from what I hear the laws most likely to be talked about are limiting how much a weapon can hold at once, i.e. no large capacity magazines.
This could be done without an amendment.

It could, but many gun owners would consider it a ploy to undermine their 2 nd Amendment rights, and it would involve a rough fight politically to get it passed.

 

[KSG_Standard]

Results of the '96 Australian Gun Laws (updated 2009) (GunsAndCrime.org)

 

[riffsmachine]

It could, but many gun owners would consider it a ploy to undermine their 2 nd Amendment rights, and it would involve a rough fight politically to get it passed.

So you you're pratically a hostage of gun owners and rifle association.

 

[Skintaster]

So you you're pratically a hostage of gun owners.

Uh... No.

 

[riffsmachine]

Uh... No.

Ah!

 

[Indyclone]

So you you're pratically a hostage of gun owners and rifle association.

They do hold a lot of power, with both their vote and their monetary influence on government. Someone who's really anti-gun could make that argument.

 

[bertzie]

Australia is too dangerous to bother fighting with other humans when you've got every other living thing trying to kill you.

 

[BillB1960]

That explains everything.
Wow! What a post!

This post courtesy of the fine folks who brought you the Cosa Nostra.

 

[The Archer]

Results of the '96 Australian Gun Laws (updated 2009) (GunsAndCrime.org)

That is easily the most biased thing I have ever read. I am not in favor of gun bans but I absolutely reject that joke of an article.

 

[Paracelsian]

How come no one brings up Switzerland lol?? No standing army, only a militia. With most of the privately held Sig 550's in the world, in "citizens" homes, select fire to boot. I believe they had tried introducing reform but it went no place.
Great rec. shooters too, they have a pretty big rifle event there every year. I think 200k plus show up, well armed... funny thing the bodies aren't stacking up like cord wood.

 

[PraXis]

How come no one brings up Switzerland lol?? No standing army, only a militia. With most of the privately held Sig 550's in the world, in "citizens" homes, select fire to boot. I believe they had tried introducing reform but it went no place.
Great rec. shooters too, they have a pretty big rifle event there every year. I think 200k plus show up, well armed... funny thing the bodies aren't stacking up like cord wood.

Different culture and much smaller scale.

They don't have the advantages of all our wonderful diversity.

 

[Paracelsian]

Different culture and much smaller scale.

They don't have the advantages of all our wonderful diversity.

So you mean, its the people and not the scary guns??? Fvck me.
*2010 The annual rate of homicide by guns per 100,000 population was 0.52.

 

[SteveGangi]

They do hold a lot of power, with both their vote and their monetary influence on government. Someone who's really anti-gun could make that argument.

Wow. What a revolutionary concept!

People voting for those who will legislate the way they want them to! (or at least lie that they will to get the votes)

Voting and elections are so last century. Times have changed. Maybe it's time to scrap representation in government

 

[The Archer]

How come no one brings up Switzerland lol?? No standing army, only a militia. With most of the privately held Sig 550's in the world, in "citizens" homes, select fire to boot. I believe they had tried introducing reform but it went no place.
Great rec. shooters too, they have a pretty big rifle event there every year. I think 200k plus show up, well armed... funny thing the bodies aren't stacking up like cord wood.

Switzerland has a standing army, I have seen them out training....I have conversed with members of the Swiss Military.

The Militia in Switzerland is very regulated, there are yearly requirements and enlistment requirements. It is not in any way akin to what Americans try to pass off as a militia. In the case of Switzerland only about 5-10% of the military is full time army/military. From there the rest of the standing members are conscripted and given full training...these men are considered 'Militia'. Men have no choice but to be members of the military, those who do not meet requirements must pay an additional 3% income tax until the age of 30. The military is very important in Switzerland.

One cannot use the american militia concept along with with the Swiss militia in a sensible, factual manner. In Switzerland the Militia is more akin to the Army reserves or National Guard.
The standing military in Switzerland is ~ 200 000 and more than a million fully trained troops can be marshalled within 24 hours.

There are missile stations and listening/radar posts all over the country. Switzerland is, essentially, a fortress.

 

[The Archer]

Different culture and much smaller scale.

They don't have the advantages of all our wonderful diversity.

Switzerland is a very diverse country

 

[Paracelsian]

Switzerland has a standing army, I have seen them out training....I have conversed with members of the Swiss Military.

The Militia in Switzerland is very regulated, there are yearly requirements and enlistment requirements. It is not in any way akin to what Americans try to pass off as a militia. In the case of Switzerland only about 5-10% of the military is full time army/military. From there the rest of the standing members are conscripted and given full training...these men are considered 'Militia'

America does not do it this way. You cannot use the american militia concept with the Swiss militia. In Switzerland the Militia is more akin to the Army reserves or National Guard.

Got ya. But my point was they have one of the largest numbers of privately held AR's, both select and semi, in the world and some of the lowest homicide rates. And last I knew, you needed to file for a permit to own a select fire there, but the main requirement for approval was a locked safe to keep it in. This was a couple years back, maybe thats changed.

 

[The Archer]

Got ya. But my point was they have one of the largest numbers of privately held AR's, both select and semi, in the world and some of the lowest homicide rates. And last I knew, you needed to file for a permit to own a select fire there, but the main requirement for approval was a locked safe to keep it in. This was a couple years back, maybe thats changed.

It still is and you are, essentially, correct but dont forget that most of those AR's are in the hands of trained soldiers. They are just called labelled a militia.