- Nov 6, 2007
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How dare a for-profit company with employees to pay and bills to pay try to make money!
No, planned obsolescence means you physically cannot use the older products or they have no ability to be fixed after a short period as spare parts are deliberately not sold after a short time.
Merely wanting to buy a nominally better/upgraded product of the same type as you already own where it will continue to perform is not part of the definition of planned obsolescence, but is absolutely 100% the definition of upselling.
After all Gibson can charge what they want..... and you don't have to buy.
You know,.. I never owned a pair of Nikes.... but I do have a few pairs of RayBansPeople will pay a hefty premium to satisfy the psychological desire of being associated with brand names and celebrities.
Indeed you don't have to buy a given product which is why millions are spent on marketing in an attempt to convince us all that only a certain brand of guitar, shoes, tires, yada yada is good enough.
I agree with this statement.It all depends on what you like and what you can afford. Do you just want to create art with your instrument, or do you want your instrument to be a work of art in and of itself? There is something to be said for the inspiration a beautiful custom instrument can provide, and if it inspires you to pick it up every day and practice more and be creative, then it's worth the price IMHO.
So very eloquently said.Prices for instruments in general seems to be a bit nuts, and you're paying for a premium brand. But all things are relative.
I own a Fender American Professional II Telecaster that retails for $1700 and that is as darn close to the perfect instrument as I've ever owned. But it doesn't do the Les Paul thing nearly as well as a Les Paul. My LP Tribute retails for $1200 and does its thing as well as any Standard I've played but for half the price. It just doesn't look as pretty and I'm not sold on the PCB, but it's a rock machine.
As a violinist I've been involved in long debates about antique instruments vs. new. The consensus is usually that older or more expensive is not necessarily quantitatively better. But there is the emotional component of owning a beautiful classic instrument that transports you back in time, and inspires a certain level of playing and interest due to the beauty, history and provenance of the object in your hands. The emotional aspect is important for inspiration to many people.
Sorry to wander off on a tangent... It all depends on what you like and what you can afford. Do you just want to create art with your instrument, or do you want your instrument to be a work of art in and of itself? There is something to be said for the inspiration a beautiful custom instrument can provide, and if it inspires you to pick it up every day and practice more and be creative, then it's worth the price IMHO.
2015 was only 7 years ago… surely you remember when Henry jumped prices to where a standard was $3500 for zero supply chain reasons but just because, right?Makes you kinda miss Henry ,at least he kept prices within reason and threw in some AFFORDABLE special editions
Yeah... but you didn't buy just the guitar......you bought a lifestyle with that $3500..... (sarcasm)2015 was only 7 years ago… surely you remember when Henry jumped prices to where a standard was $3500 for zero supply chain reasons but just because, right?
He also famously cranked up the prices of gibsons right when it took over in the 80s.
If I am missing your tone and this was sarcasm, my apologies.
Just like cars, clothes, shoes, phones, computers, etcI think the historic line, which they have had for almost 30 years now, is the best example, every year they come up with something to keep consumers buying new guitars, "we got it right this time" as far as accuracy goes, they will purposely adjust features every year to make it more "accurate", and leave some features incorrect. As far as the USA lines go, you can't get certain finishes on one series/model, but it comes on others, pickups for example, neck dimensions, everything really. You might like the finish and neck dimensions on one guitar, but it won't have the pickups you desire as an example. It's all on purpose so that we will purchase multiple guitars, year after year. I can't blame them, it's a business, and this business model is obviously working for Gibson consumers.