anyone able to identify this epi lp?

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Hi
I just bought a lp on ebay and the finish on it looks superb..similar to an elitist in my opinion..i know the guitar ive just bought is a 2008 chinese model however ive never seen this finish on an epi other than an elitist..
Can anyone tell me a bit more about it?
 

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looks similar to the one I may trade for today les paul standard translucent but not positive
 

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I was thinking it was either a quilt top or trans amber...what confused me was that the QT seems heavily flamed rather than tiger striped..also the trans amber seems to be flamed in very straight lines with no likeness to the quilt finish..quite confused..
I thought it was more similar to the custom shop gibson stuff in terms of the finish like the 58s or 59s???
 

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Ot oh...
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My guess is - no, scrub that, it's not a guess - I'm sorry to say that it's this one... yep, the one that's been highlighted all week in the Fake Thread
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Really? Any ideas why its defo fake? I thought it might have been as i cant find this finish anywhere...plus ive heard if the letters are bigger than the numbers in the serial then thats a clue its fake?
 

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Really? Any ideas why its defo fake? I thought it might have been as i cant find this finish anywhere...plus ive heard if the letters are bigger than the numbers in the serial then thats a clue its fake?

Big fat EEs is a 100% fake,
the screw on the PG is another sign...

did you buy it ?

if yes, a pic of the opened control-cavity will give us more proof
 

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Yeah i won the auction purely as the finished looked unusual and i really liked it..ive not paid for it yet..should i contact the buyer and refer him to this forum?
 

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Lots of signs - the finish being a non-typical Epi one for starters. Then there's knob placement (which oddly, isn't too bad on this one), scratchplate screw position (not conclusive as that could have been an aftermarket addition), the bridge post screw heads are too 'domed', the bridge sits a little too square, but the obvious pointer is the serial number.

It was reported to ebay and they ignored it. Some discussion actually followed in the Fake Thread as to whether once notified, ebay are effectively aiding and abetting in the sale of counterfeit goods if they choose not to act - whether you want to go down that route is entirely up to you... but you'd better have deep pockets
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I'd suggest that you contact the seller and enlighten him / her - they may have been had too... and might have even got it from a 'legit' shop

By the way, if they had not mentioned 'Epiphone Les Paul' anywhere in their listing and just said 'single cut style' or something, you may not have such strong grounds to back out of the deal... but they did...
 

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Thanks for the info guys..ive just caught up on the fake thread convo..im going to contact the seller and refer him/her to here..ill ask them to post more photos etc..
Sounds like its fake and you guys obv know your stuff..lets see what happens..
 

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Thanks for the info guys..ive just caught up on the fake thread convo..im going to contact the seller and refer him/her to here..ill ask them to post more photos etc..
Sounds like its fake and you guys obv know your stuff..lets see what happens..

Contact Gibson/Epi before telling the seller what you know......
 

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Any idea how long Gibson may typically take to respond Pete..?

It could get a little tricky if the seller is expecting / requesting payment whilst Ramsayjim is trying to tread water waiting for an official response
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Ive told the seller id pay on mon so id ideally need to find oit before late monday...
 

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Wow and Wow
Wow that someone would do that to you
Wow that we have this incredible resource at our fingertips
I hope this goes away easily for you
 

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