Any ideas on how to keep the G string in-tune w/Bigsby?

Wyatt Earp

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So, I've taken my Bigsby B7 on and off of my LPC twice now. I can't seem to keep the G string from going out of tune. Actually, it goes out of tube without the Bigsby. The tuners are Schaller clones of the original Grover Rotomatic tuners. I don't recall ever having and issue with the stock tuners, but I know the German made Schaller's are some HQ tuners. I'm just sort of stumped on what's causing it.
 

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Thanks! I have a bone nut in my stash, but it would need string slots cut into it.
 

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The nut seems to be the culprit on a lot of tuning issues...I have had pretty good luck with folding a small piece of 1500 grit sandpaper in half and using it to just polish the nut slot.
 

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ABM has gold roller nuts, too. I just wasn't sure if they were the right width for LPs, but you could check. With those you definitely want the exact width since filing the metal would be a problem.

A good luthier should be able to cut you a bone nut with proper slots.
 

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Thanks! I have a bone nut in my stash, but it would need string slots cut into it.
Just widen the G string slot a little before you try replacing the old nut, easier to work on one slot than 6 new ones. And, the other posters are right, it’s usually the nut and almost never the tuners.
 

Les Paul John

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Three things.

Good nut self lubricating or yourself

Locking tuners

Roller bridge if you don’t wish to make unGibsonified looking - or lube the roller tension bars on the trem itself. I use sewing machine oil. 3 in 1 oil etc.
 

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While I do not have a Bigsby installed, I do have both a roller bridge and roller nut.

The roller bridge is around $30 and the roller nut $50, think about it - NO stickshun anywhere, all string ride on
turning little rollers, impossible to bind, stick, tuning stays put, period, honestly these are best upgrades
 

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don't Bigsby's stay in tune better with flat-wound strings??
 

Rob the Photog

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I feel your pain, I always have a problem with my G-string slipping! :Ohno::rofl:

All joking aside, I just picked up a set of Mitchell Abrasive Cord from StewMac. I was having a similar issue; my G string would often slip out of tune while playing, and had that "ping" sound when re-tuning that indicates the string sticking/binding in the nut slot. I ran a little bit of the abrasive cord back and forth through the G string nut slot a few times (a lot like flossing), and it really did the trick - no more "ping" noise, and the tuning holds steady! Maybe it'll work for you, too? Maybe not, but I feel like it's a handy thing to keep in the tool box, and it's MUCH cheaper and easier than replacing the nut, or even re-filing the slot.

Just my 2 cents, and I hope it helps!
 

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don't Bigsby's stay in tune better with flat-wound strings??
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We are really talking about sticking to the bridge or nut, that round wound strings have a problem with.
Round wound strings are smooth and do not have that sticking problem I play GHS 9-42 round wounds, love em.
 

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One string going out of tune is not a Bigsby problem IMO, you just need to have the nut worked on so the string doesn't bind. Bigsby's DO need frequent lubrication at all points of contact and moving parts, it's just regular maintenance.
Al
 

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There is no issue with your G string that pertains to a bigsby.
 

Kaicho8888

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As many say... If your G string gets into a bind, adjust your nut slot. :cheers2:

Side note:
Many times the G string does not sound correctly in tune with respect to other strings as you go up the fretboard. If this is a perceived problem, try to tune the open G a percent lower than what your tuner indicates.
:band:
 

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Most tuning issues are the nut, as other have stated. But, you should also try to load as few wraps as possible on the tuners. Having a bunch of strings allows it to loosen up and reseat every time you push down and let up on the Bigsby.

I really recommend using the string wind that works like a knot... You slip the end of the string through the tuner. Wrap the loose end back around the tuner shaft the wrong way. Then, tuck it under the string coming from the nut, and bend it up tightly. Then tighten the tuner. This keeps the end of the string tightly tucked under the string under tension. You can literally use less than a whole wrap of string and it will hold and stay solidly in tune.

https://reverb.com/news/how-to-change-electric-guitar-strings
 




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