Alice in Wonderland Recording Session

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Started a new project today...a recording session for a stage production of Alice in Wonderland. My job is chief recording engineer. I just thought some of you might be interested in seeing what a session like this is like.

I started at 8 am today. This will be a live off the floor session with the composer conducting as well. Instrumentation is cello, viola, violin, trumpet, various woodwinds, keyboards and various percussion. I really wanted to do the strings as overdubs or at least in an isolation room to mitigate bleed issues from some of the loud instruments but it was not in the budget logistically. We are cutting 80 tracks in two 8 hour days starting tomorrow morning at 9.

So I decided to use rehearsal hall 3 for the live room which is down the hall about 100 feet from the studio control room. I spent the day setting up makeshift gobos, wiring mics, doing line checks...all that seemingly boring stuff....but it is so critical that everything goes smoothly on the recording dates. I found one Neumann KM84 that sounded a bit weird and swapped it out for another....things like that.

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The strings arrangement. I have a pair of KM84s in XY on a large mic stand. The cello will also have a close Neumann U87 up close and the violin and viola will have Sennheiser MKE platinum mics clips clipped to the bridges. The KM84s and the close mics will be time aligned in the DAW. I generally don't like close miked strings but I'm making this option available because of the anticipated bleed problems.

Next pic is the keys/percussion section. Stereo DI off the keys, SM57s on the top and bottom of the snare drum, AT4050 on the glock, AT 4050 on the woodblocks, Sennheiser 421s on the floor tom and bass drum.


Oh yeah....I thought the original cymbal the musician brought did not sound that good so he called up a friend who happens to live locally to borrow one...15 minutes later it was here....there's a lot of great musicians in this little town believe it of not! I got a pic of the underside of the borrowed cymbal:D


On the other side is the woodwinds and trumpet. The woodwinds will be clarinet and saxes. I'm going to try a vintage AKG 414 here...I love the sound of this mic but it's pretty dark, so we'll see!
The trumpet will be mic'ed with my homemade ribbon mic. See the cloth bag over the ribbon mic? I used such a thin ribbon that I always keep the mic protected until it's actually in service.


Preamps will be Apogees, Avalons, Focusrites, and Manleys.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5GXBmBQl7s[/ame]
 

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Freddy, if you ever get the chance, DPA miniature mics (dpa 4060)or mini-shotguns (dpa 4099) are your best friend when trying to minimize leakage. They sound great on everything. Any (remote)micpres in the studio?
Good luck and lots of fun with this project!:dude:
 

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Freddy, if you ever get the chance, DPA miniature mics (dpa 4060)or mini-shotguns (dpa 4099) are your best friend when trying to minimize leakage. They sound great on everything. Any (remote)micpres in the studio?
Good luck and lots of fun with this project!:dude:

Yes I agree the DPA 4060 are great! We use a pile of them for mic'ing the actors for the live stage productions. However they are terminated with microdot connectors for use with belt pack transmitters. I don't have the adapters to hardwire them and be able to use regular P48.

No remote mic pres in the live room if that's what you mean. But RH3 is wired to the control room via a 24 input XLR panel.

I'm going to try the Funkhaus IR on this today :D
 

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the 4060's are almost too good as lavs, I find them problematic for that BUT they are fantastic for applications where proximity to the soundsource is paramount. They are my go-to for performance piano recording and amplification, everybody loves the sound they get from those. Also great on violins, violas, cello and double bass, they sound like a fullsized mic but are mounted to the bridge with little rubber mounts. of course you'll need a general distant pickup as well. Get the powerhandles/ adapters, they're worth it.:)
 

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Nice work Freddy! :thumb:

I thought your avatar looked familiar and until now, after seeing your YT channel, I couldn't place where I had seen it. The Hentor Sportscaster replica is THE guitar I've been GASing for the last couple of years. Incredible work all around, truly inspirational!
 

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the 4060's are almost too good as lavs

They do sound fabulous on a lot of voices. I also have Sennheiser MKE2 Platinums and Golds as well as Countrymen E6s. We use different ones depending on which ones suit the voice. The E6s are the worst....I don't like them at all. (we put those on the chorus hehe)

Get the powerhandles/ adapters, they're worth it.

Ordered some today!

Nice work Freddy! :thumb:

I thought your avatar looked familiar and until now, after seeing your YT channel, I couldn't place where I had seen it. The Hentor Sportscaster replica is THE guitar I've been GASing for the last couple of years. Incredible work all around, truly inspirational!

Thanks...yeah the Hentors....I just shipped out the last one I'll make on Monday....#50. It was a good run, but I found myself itching to do other guitar builds so I'm looking forward to some new guitar projects!
 

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They do sound fabulous on a lot of voices. I also have Sennheiser MKE2 Platinums and Golds as well as Countrymen E6s. We use different ones depending on which ones suit the voice. The E6s are the worst....I don't like them at all. (we put those on the chorus hehe)



Ordered some today!

Yes, the DPAs are the best sounding but the cable is a bit rigid and noisy for my taste. MKE2 is the workhorse of course, countrymans are utility mics but they do hide well. Anyway, you'll like having the ability to hardwire those little gems.
 

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.... I'm looking forward to some new guitar projects!

Do you make scratchplates/ pickguards? I need a custom one for a '56 LP junior with a poorly installed P-90 in the neckposition. I want to hide the PU as much as possible. Maybe have a multilevel guard that will cover the neckPU without compromising it's height? Maybe a multilevel guard made from metal with fancy etchings? I dunno, just a crazy idea of mine. remember the Fender Marauder with the hidden PU's under the guard? Something along those lines so all you see is the bridge PU.
 

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Do you make scratchplates/ pickguards? I need a custom one for a '56 LP junior with a poorly installed P-90 in the neckposition. I want to hide the PU as much as possible. Maybe have a multilevel guard that will cover the neckPU without compromising it's height? Maybe a multilevel guard made from metal with fancy etchings? I dunno, just a crazy idea of mine. remember the Fender Marauder with the hidden PU's under the guard? Something along those lines so all you see is the bridge PU.

Sounds like an interesting idea! Metal with etching is beyond me though....I've never done that. But if you want plastic I can whip up anything. Here's one I recently did for an archtop....5 ply binding on some really nice tort.



 

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