Aged True Historic - Factory Buckle Rash or Not

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Natural aging on my most recent R8. (2007)
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Because it’s a little beat it gets mega play time. Shiny one lives in it’s case now. I still don’t quite get factory relics.
 
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How much damage is the right amount of damage? Tricky question....
 

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Sorry...I don't post up here much... but I'm laughing inside at the thought of someone buying a new but reliced/pre-aged guitar......especially a Gibson.

Totally not my thing.

Carry on....
 

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Back of a 2015 Murphy 1959 True Historic:

Gibson is not doing right with these "true" historics.
The grain filler on them is always too dark, it doesn't look anything like vintage
 

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This thread made my day :laugh2:

I find the matter totally ridiculous, I find it totally unbelievable people are "certain" this is or is not factory wear (how the hell can you know?). But I'm also happy the matter got resolved with the help of the dealer. I mean, that's how it shoud always be right? Two people are in disagreement, they both do a small concession, and they both leave happy.

Could someone please explain what exactly a "mint condition" reliced/aged guitar is and how would you know?
I've been wondering this for years. I've seen reliced to shit Fender/ Gibsons sold as "mint". Yeah it probably means new, unplayed, ....., whatever. But how can you know?
Two weeks ago I played a reliced custom shop strat, build 2004. Owner told me atleast 1/3 of the wear was his because it got played a lot. I passed on it because the neck was too big for my taste, but price was really sweet, should have taken it just to flip it but hey, I'm not a gear flipper. Anyway, yesterday I see the guitar for sale again, so obviously someone else bought it to flip it, and now the guitar is labeled als mint and in good condition. Yeah whatever man
 

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The argument of the aged and non aged crowd is stupid. Some people like aged guitars. Deal with it. There's obviously a market for it.
 

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The buckle rash is not consistent with any factory aging I've ever seen. Not sure that would be enough to dissuade me from keeping such a nice guitar, but you're the one who has to look at it every day. If it bugs you now it's going to bug you forever.
Ya, but you look at the front, not the back. I know the backside of mine looks worse than the front.

 

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LMFAO! :lol:

Really? What have you got there? Is that Fake Aging?

Wait a minute now - the factory aging is really fake aging though, isn't it? I mean, it wasn't really aged naturally, someone on a production line did it. But hold on. Does that mean this is an example of Fake "Fake Aging"? Does that mean this is not really a "True Historic?" Is it a False Historic then? Or do the two "fakes" cancel each other out, like in Math. Hey! It is a True Historic after all!!

Man, Gibson has got you fanbois wound up tighter than a frogs a$$ under water over this nonsense. I can hear you wringing your hands from way over here in Los Angeles! Just wank off at all your "case candy" - you'll feel better.
 

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Ya, I think that's that P.T. Barnum was getting at, lol.
Doesn't make a difference to me. If people like aged guitars thats for them to like and not for me to tell anyone how stupid they are for liking them. Guy is on here asking an honest question and the fuckin aged vs non-aged crowd comes out of the woodwork to tell people how stupid they are and how their cocks are bigger because they like/hate "fake" aging. I'm not here to judge. There wasn't a poll question asking. In fact its an irrelevant discussion in this matter.
 

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@Crotch, Is this not a public forum?

I don't see any ill will or arguing - just a few of us laughing at the inherent IRONY of this situation - but I didn't have time to read through teh entire thread, bro, literally had tears rolling down my face...
 
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It's a totally public forum. I find a lot of things on this forum funny. I just find smugness offputting. You commented in this thread for no reason but to tear another member down for what they like. And probably a big swath of members like the same. It wasn't a thread about whether you like a product, it was someone asking a question looking for help. Carry on.
 

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Ya, well you carry on as well, amigo. Freedom of expression and all that. Keep it real, etc.

But why you gotta go start name calling :facepalm: and posting your (incorrect) assumption about why I commented on this post - isn't that just a tad off-topic? And in the same breath you bitch&moan about others being off topic: "It wasn't a thread about whether you like a product, it was someone asking a question looking for help." Hypocrisy much?

Btw, aren't "smugness" and a "holier-than-thou" attitude kinda the same thing? [And although you went back and edited/toned down the ivory-tower-rhetoric after I posted this, I think I'm gonna leave it up anyhoo]

Hey @Crotch! Looks like we've got something in common after all: :laugh2:

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