70 years ago today the most repugnant meeting in human history took place.

[Deus Vult]

+1.. Yup.. totally agree. I still would love the people here to tell me what "they" still have as questions about that period of time. The video that was posted started out admitting that 6 million died but it went from that to it was not done in gas chambers and it tries to prove that from what I could tell, bad video and audio. IMO. If gas wasn't used then how did they die?? Accident??

You don't kill that many people without a very good mass assembly line method.. like a gas chamber??

or tying people to each other on a bridge and then shooting every 2 or 3 man to save bullets.

or just working and starving them to death

 

[colchar]

You apparently don't understand what a small dose of Z-B is required to kill a human, versus what is required to sterilize laundry. It takes more to do the latter, because you are dealing with insect nits, which have a microscopic aerobic exchange rate compared to a pair of human lungs. Additionally, Z-B affects warm-blooded animals much more quickly and effectively.

In other words, taking the 700kg of Z-B we've documented so far, and assuming for the sake of discussion that the information you provided above is both true and accurate, 95% of 700 is 665 kg of Z-B; the remaining 5% is 35kg.

Now, if to disinfect clothing requires an aerobic concentration of 16,000ppm, and killing humans requires a concentration of 300ppm, that means that in an identical volume that means that you'd need 53 times more Z-B for decon than for murder.


On that invoice is 35kg of cyanide "dedicated" (if you'll pardon the word) to murder rather than delousing. A fatal dose for humans is about 1.5 milligrams, meaning that one kilogram of cyanide can kill about 67 people aerobically, and the 35kg on that invoice would kill about 2,350 -- again, assuming your breakdown.

Now, consider this fact: the SS ordered roughly 2.75 tons of Z-B ... that is, about 2,490 kilograms. 5% of that number is 124 kg. At 67 deaths per kilogram, we get 8350 murders per month, or, from 1942 to 1944 inclusive, 300,000 murders by gas over the course of the "killing period" of the camps. That is roughly 10% of the three million deaths ascribed to the gas chambers.

Now, would you present your source for that "5% used for murder" claim?

If you're relying on Pressac, who is the only one I've seen recently touting that percentage, you should know that his credibility is shot, considering that he himself cannot agree with himself on a figure for daily deaths at Auschwitz (he varies from 288 to 1,500 -- do you accept these numbers from him?)

When you present your source for inspection, we can move on to deeper evidence ... but the math for 2494 kg/month clearly allows for the mass murder of millions, unless you can show the claimed proportion.

You want his source Thump? Go read the Wikipedia article on Zyklon B. Seriously, go read it then read his statement. He took it word for word from Wikipedia.

 

[jeff_farkas]

or tying people to each other on a bridge and then shooting every 2 or 3 man to save bullets.

or just working and starving them to death

Got to love efficiency.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

+1.. Yup.. totally agree. I still would love the people here to tell me what "they" still have as questions about that period of time. The video that was posted started out admitting that 6 million died but it went from that to it was not done in gas chambers and it tries to prove that from what I could tell, bad video and audio. IMO. If gas wasn't used then how did they die?? Accident??

You don't kill that many people without a very good mass assembly line method.. like a gas chamber??

Actually, almost 2 million Jews were killed by firing squads or mobile gas vans before the death camps hit their stride in terms of fatalities. I'm unsure how many Gentiles were killed by non-gas methods.

The NaZis struggled to find a way to kill as quickly and as efficiently as they desired. Most methods were too slow for them.

 

[jeff_farkas]

Actually, almost 2 million Jews were killed by firing squads or mobile gas vans before the death camps hit their stride in terms of fatalities. I'm unsure how many Gentiles were killed by non-gas methods.

The NaZis struggled to find a way to kill as quickly and as efficiently as they desired. Most methods were too slow for them.

Thanks for the information.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

You want his source Thump? Go read the Wikipedia article on Zyklon B. Seriously, go read it then read his statement. He took it word for word from Wikipedia.

Holy crap, word for word?

It appears I gave him too much credit.

 

[Lysol]

Except for those pesky historical facts.

Historical "facts" written by the victors of war.

Insults rather than answers.. how adult on your part. Do you have something that you're afraid of if you do answer my simple question.. And I would love to know what you have to say. This is not a trap. Just answer the question.

I could post pages worth of information debunking the mainstream and mass accepted Holocaust story but it wont change a thing in one of you, hence, I will not bother.

And the only people afraid of questions are the Jews that support the Holocaust industry.

 

[slapshot]

the holocaust happened.you have to be ****ing stupid to deny it
and why do we not see "banned" under this lysol name yet?

 

[jeff_farkas]

Historical "facts" written by the victors of war.



I could post pages worth of information debunking the mainstream and mass accepted Holocaust story but it wont change a thing in one you, hence, I will not bother.

Debunking what?? Tell me about it or post a link or two. By saying you don't want to proves either you just have bad arguments(poor ones) or they're like that video and book list you posted earlier and should not be taken serious.

 

[Lysol]

the holocaust happened.you have to be ****ing stupid to deny it
and why do we not see "banned" under this lysol name yet?

Because, you intolerant fascist, I haven't broken any forum rules. I merely have a different opinion than others.

 

[bertzie]

So anyone else notice that Jews seem to have rather poor luck? Between enslavement, and people trying to kill them for the past few thousand years or so.

 

[slapshot]

you just did

 

[Lysol]

Debunking what?? Tell me about it or post a link or two. By saying you don't want to proves either you just have bad arguments(poor ones) or they're like that video and book list you posted earlier and should not be taken serious.

Not posting them proves nothing other than the fact that I don't want to waste my time on some people and that peoples opinions on such subjects are not changed via forums.

 

[jeff_farkas]

Because, you intolerant fascist, I haven't broken any forum rules. I merely have a different opinion than others.

Wow...and some think I have a temper.. calm down dude. It's put up or shut up here.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

You want his source Thump? Go read the Wikipedia article on Zyklon B. Seriously, go read it then read his statement. He took it word for word from Wikipedia.

Hey, I copied his post and ran it through Google. The second hit was this thread. The first hit? Holocaust Liars

I guess that's not biased.

 

[Lysol]

you just did

I stated a fact. You ARE intolerant and fascist like by not wanting contrary opinions put forth.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Not posting them proves nothing other than the fact that I don't want to waste my time on some people and that peoples opinions on such subjects are not changed via forums.

Quite clearly you're happy to return to this thread and "waste your time" posting. You just don't want to "waste your time" posting sources.

I wonder why?

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

I stated a fact. You ARE intolerant and fascist like by not wanting contrary opinions put forth.

I'd like to see your sources. I'm willing to read them.

 

[Lysol]

Wow...and some think I have a temper.. calm down dude. It's put up or shut up here.

I'm not angry, I'm very relaxed and in quite a good mood actually. I'm merely stating the truth. He wants me BANNED for a contrary opinion... THAT IS FASCISM!

 

[jeff_farkas]

Not posting them proves nothing other than the fact that I don't want to waste my time on some people and that peoples opinions on such subjects are not changed via forums.

:sigh: You come of as a very angry and hateful person. Shame.. what a waste.