50s wiring problem

[xxxWACKERxxx]

I just got my Wolfetone Marshallhead and mkii pickups for my LP studio Alpine white with ebony fangerboard...Anyhootz, installed them and new CTS 500k Audio using the 50s wiring. The middle position is weird with either volume turned off no sound, also the taper when in either neck or vol position when using the volume control rapidly decreases volume to not very loud at all! What can I do?


From what I have read 50s wiring LPs have volume jump/loss, if so the how do you get a smooth volume taper? I like to go from really low volume to loud gradually without spiking so much for sweepin swells! Thanx


Heres a pic:

 

[Sixstring63]

I just got my Wolfetone Marshallhead and mkii pickups for my LP studio Alpine white with ebony fangerboard...Anyhootz, installed them and new CTS 500k Audio using the 50s wiring. The middle position is weird with either volume turned off no sound, also the taper when in either neck or vol position when using the volume control rapidly decreases volume to not very loud at all! What can I do?


From what I have read 50s wiring LPs have volume jump/loss, if so the how do you get a smooth volume taper? I like to go from really low volume to loud gradually without spiking so much for sweepin swells! Thanx


Heres a pic:

From the pic it looks all messed up to me. Cap to the wrong lug, not grounded lug on one tone pot and volume pots. Looks like using all 3 lugs on volume pots. I would start over.

 

[maverick08]

Hard to see but it looks like the caps are on the wrong lugs..

 

[fairlanericky]

here's a pic of my AW Studio for comparison.

Ric

 

[Pinkie]

Not wired correctly start over.

 

[xxxWACKERxxx]

Its correct just bad photo

 

[Pinkie]

Really hard to tell by the pic. check to make sure no bare wires are touching anything.
Could be a bad solder joint.Always best to solder the ground lug on the pot to the pot casing and not with a wire like you have in the pic.That ground wire on the bridge tone pot looks pretty sketchy.Try bending that lug and ground the lug to the pot.

 

[xxxWACKERxxx]

I use red wires to ground lug on pots....


Heres a Better photo!....

 

[Bubbletonic]

The volume thing is normal. When one pup is on zero the middle position is also on zero.

 

[gypsyseven]

BTW, is it really necessary to have this plain wire that connects all four pots?
I did the 50´s wiring without it and everythings fine....

What do you think?





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[xxxWACKERxxx]

The volume thing is normal. When one pup is on zero the middle position is also on zero.

Is there a way around the middle weirdness?

How do you get a smooth gradual volume taper? I like to go from really low volume to loud gradually without spiking so much for sweepin swells! Thanx*

 

[Sixstring63]

I use red wires to ground lug on pots....


Heres a Better photo!....

Yeah, it looks ok here. What a difference in photos. It does look like the solder joints are very cold in spots though. You might want to go back and touch them up.

 

[A string bounce]

both pics show different wiring? ??

 

[BCRGreg]

The first pic shows the bridge tone wired backwards.

 

[siore]

Assuming you got it wired right, you might wanna try other pots with tapers that could work for you.

 

[xxxWACKERxxx]

In the second I posted didnt change anything just bent the cap so yall could see better, the first photo I posted was upside down sorry about the confusion

Is there a way around the middle weirdness?
How do you get a smooth gradual volume taper?
I like to go from really low volume to loud gradually without spiking so much for sweepin swells.

 

[siore]

Short of adding taper resistors, smoother taper pots. The 'weirdness' in the middle is par for course. Or you could try switching pickup and switch lugs and go for independent volumes 50's wiring where you still have sound even with one vol at 0.

 

[xxxWACKERxxx]

Short of adding taper resistors, smoother taper pots. The 'weirdness' in the middle is par for course. Or you could try switching pickup and switch lugs and go for independent volumes 50's wiring where you still have sound even with one vol at 0.

The independant wiring looks good, thanks.
What is taper resister? How do you do this?

 

[xxxWACKERxxx]

Well just did the indendent 50s which the middle position is better.

The pots are still not gradual, is there a fix or is the fate of 50s wiring? The problem is that the volume is quiet/low from 0-8 then jumps from 9-10 loud not smooth. Any solutions out there? Its not the pots i have used this batch of cts on several guitars without this taper issue. :'(

 

[Bubbletonic]

Well just did the indendent 50s which the middle position is better.

The pots are still not gradual, is there a fix or is the fate of 50s wiring? The problem is that the volume is quiet/low from 0-8 then jumps from 9-10 loud not smooth. Any solutions out there? Its not the pots i have used this batch of cts on several guitars without this taper issue. :'(

I would have said it was the taper of the pots...

I don't particuarly love the roll off on mine, most of the volume goes between 10 and 7 but I've learnt to live with it... I just roll the pots back less, as I get the knobs in their position by listening to the sound rather than the number on the knob.