5 watt tube amp question.

Gig with 5 watt tube amp


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LP1865

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So one of my guitar buddies went to the local guitar store today, and played this really small amp.
Handwired right here in India, has a built in load box and an attenuator.
Seems like a great recording and practice amp, but my friend asked the guy at the shop whether it would keep up with a drummer.
The store rep said yes in a very confident manner, and frankly my friend didn't believe him.
He called me up, like he usually does, and told me to look it up on the internet.
The opinions I hear is that its possible, while others say its not.
Technically, a 5 watt amp is half as loud as a 50 watt amp, which is very loud.
Assuming one was to gig with it at a place with PA, would one not be able to hear it over a drummer with the right cab, say, a 2x12 loaded with V30s?
There's a lot of smart people here, so I wanna know if its possible.
 

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Assuming one was to gig with it at a place with PA, would one not be able to hear it over a drummer with the right cab, say, a 2x12 loaded with V30s?
If you can mic the amp and run it through the PA, then you’ll have no problem - lots of people play even large venues with a low watt amp that’s mic’d. But on its own, it simply won’t give you enough headroom unless you play in a quiet jazz or mostly acoustic group.
 

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You're either going to have to mic it, or get a bigger amp IMO. For a heavy handed drummer playing rock, I've always needed about 30W minimum, but then again I do want to have cleans from time to time. Sometimes a 22W Deluxe Reverb sized amp works OK for me, but I generally need more headroom.

When cranked, you might find that it's loud enough but completely falls to mush and flubs out. YMMV and all of that, but I don't think that it's going to work for you.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys
The price point seemed very promising so I was just speculating.
That's a $250 handwired head.
I'll look into their 20 watt version, but it's more than twice the price
 

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Thanks for the replies guys
The price point seemed very promising so I was just speculating.
That's a $250 handwired head.
I'll look into their 20 watt version, but it's more than twice the price
If they have master volume circuits, I’d say get the larger version. I pretty much hate 5 watt amps to be honest... I’d rather have a 50 watt amp with a good master than a non master 5 watt amp, regardless of musical genre. I’m saying that as a owner of a 1960 tweed champ.
 

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Loud is a function of many thngs. Speakers being high on the list.
Number of,
Size,
Total Impedance,
Efficiency ....

My experience is with a Bugera T5 Infinium 5 watt Head driving either a 12" Red Fang at 8 ohms, or 2 -10" Weber C10Q's at 4 ohms. All are very efficient speakers.

Yes, five watts can be very very loud. Perhaps not loud enough to keep up with a heavy handed drummer and 300 watts of bass player on steroids, but certainly loud enough for a smallish venue, upright bass, and a casual kit. Anything more and you might want want to mic it...
and put the feed into your monitor!
 

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If they have master volume circuits, I’d say get the larger version. I pretty much hate 5 watt amps to be honest... I’d rather have a 50 watt amp with a good master than a non master 5 watt amp, regardless of musical genre. I’m saying that as a owner of a 1960 tweed champ.
The 20 watt version has a built in L-Pad attenuator, but its around $550
 

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The 20 watt version has a built in L-Pad attenuator, but its around $550
But no master volume?

that may be a good option, I think in general I prefer push pull designs (meaning two power tubes) of a single ended design. Overall they tend to be less raspy and you will have a little more control of your sound via pedals ect...

A single ended el84 basically sounds like a hornet fart in my experience :laugh2:
 

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Looks like it has a master and a attenuator... I would think the bigger model is the right move :dunno:
 

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Looks like it has a master and a attenuator... I would think the bigger model is the right move :dunno:
makes sense.
it is their flagship model.
Probably worth the price too.
Should be better than other amp heads at that price.
But I'll need more money for a cab
Its either gonna be this or a katana
 

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Yes. A 5 watt amp through a Vintage 30 can keep up with a drummer. I gigged my Marshall Class 5 head a fair bit. We do Sabbath covers and heavy blues rock.

Its not ideal though. But. If you arnt doing a lot of gigging who cares.
 


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