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I need some advice. I am looking into getting a 2x12 cabinet. I want to get rid of my orange rocker 15 combo. I am looking too get a rocker 15 head and a Marshall dsl 20 head. Is their a huge advantage to a 2x12 cabinet vs say a single 1x12 cabinet? I don’t play out just in my home.
Also running such low wattage amps into speakers that are rated at 60 watts will that be an issue?
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I need some advice. I am looking into getting a 2x12 cabinet. I want to get rid of my orange rocker 15 combo. I am looking too get a rocker 15 head and a Marshall dsl 20 head. Is their a huge advantage to a 2x12 cabinet vs say a single 1x12 cabinet? I don’t play out just in my home.
Also running such low wattage amps into speakers that are rated at 60 watts will that be an issue?
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As long as your speakers are rated at a higher wattage than your amp puts out, you will be fine. Say a 100 watt head into a 300 watt speaker. That speaker will have plenty of life. 300 watt amp into 100 watt speaker? You’re done for if you plan on pushing anything over 100 watts. For the whole cabinet size thing it’s kind of weird. More speakers do not make the amp louder, but it appears that way. Imagine that you have 4 mics. Record yourself using only one mic. Next record the exact same thing only with all the mics on at once. The four mic recording has powerful vibes but doesn’t necessarily mean it’s MORE powerful. But I personally have gone as so far as to come up with a way where I can use two amp head and 4 4x12 cabs at the same time. I just love that for some reason, but I also only use a vintage peavey 12” speaker combo amp. It is decently louder than my other 80s fender single 15” amp.
 

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No need to ditch the R15 for a head. The internal speaker can easily be disconnected. And if the cab you buy is rated at 16 ohms, you can run it with the internal speaker.
 

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Depending on the amp head. Some amp heads just sound so much better with a 2x12

The Marshall dsl 20 gives you more options in setting tone over the Rocker.

I had a Orange dual terror head and a Marshall Class 5 head and could never dial in a good tone with the Orange and sold the Orange and kept the Class 5.

Marshall just sounds like rock and roll
 
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Being a home player I would say no. A 2x12 is gonna push more air.
Depends on the home? If an apartment, a 1x12 saves space and your neighbors will be grateful. If you own a home and play in a man cave like I do, a 2x12 will be fine (or go full balls and get a 4x12)
 

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Depending on the 2x12, the level of this, will vary, but it will fill the room better than a 1x12, be less beamy. Obviously, a vertical 2x12 with a canted top speaker will show this more than a horizontal 2x12 (even if put on end). But, even that will spread through the room better.

And, of course, a 2x12, CAN, with the right CAB do stereo effects.

So, for at home, depends on the room, as to whether it will be beneficial, viz a viz above. Small room, where you are playing, mostly right in front of the COmbo, not much difference, though the reflection of the waves will still be different with 2 different speakers.

NOW, what the Head/CAB has over a Combo, for strictly at home play is also:

1. Ability to have multiple heads, aka amps, in less space, if sharing a CAB, than Combos (ONLY HAVE ONE HEAD ON AND CONNECTED AT A TIME).

2. Flip side, use different speakers with the same amp, via different cabs.
 

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Playing at home won't really matter, unless you have a very large music room. Still, a horizontal 2x12" that sits on the floor (casters off) will thump better than a 1x12". A vertical 2x12" will bring more sound up to your ear level (I personally prefer vertical 2x12" cabs greatly when playing with a drummer).

If it's all for playing at home, it doesn't matter that much, though.
 

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Depending on the amp head. Some amp heads just sound so much better with a 2x12

The Marshall dsl 20 gives you more options in setting tone over the Rocker.

I had a Orange dual terror head and a Marshall Class 5 head and could never dial in a good tone with the Orange and sold the Orange and kept the Class 5.

Marshall just sounds like rock and roll
Orange amps rock. I get fantastic tone out of mine, across a spectrum of Rock genres. The Stones to Sabbath to The Strokes to Soundgarden.
 

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I recently experimented with this with my Suhr Hombre. The amp is more compressed sounding at higher gain settings through the 1x12, and seems to "breathe" a bit more on the same setting using my 2 x 12. This is only noticeable when it was cranked though. Playing at lower volumes, it is harder to tell the difference. If I was playing a gig, I would use the 2x12 because I think it would sit better with the other instruments - but for recording, I would probably use the 1x12 if I wanted to get that grind that it is designed to give up.
 

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Just my .02$ but if I only ever played at home I’d have no use for a 2x12. I’d rather use a 1x12 and be able to turn my amp up slightly more before annoying the neighbors.
 

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If OP gets a 16 ohm 1x12 cab, he can use the Rocker 15 combo with it. A 1x12/1x10 setup. This will have massive sound for a home rig. Something like this with the R15 combo would look killer.

 

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A 212 just for just home use is technically overkill. But I would never get in your way.

I do think you'd want to make sure you got a small 212 cab. Some (like mine) are really quite large. - Takes up more space than necessary.

I like the above recommendation for the Orange 112.
 

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Thanks for all the input and ideas. I am thinking the 1x12 cab might be the way to go. And it is a lot cheaper to. Keep the combo and just drive both or just the 1x12 cab with it. Choices choices!
 

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Thanks for all the input and ideas. I am thinking the 1x12 cab might be the way to go. And it is a lot cheaper to. Keep the combo and just drive both or just the 1x12 cab with it. Choices choices!
Get a 1x12 with 2 x 1/4 inputs so that you can daisy chain
 

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IMHO a 1x12 is plenty for home use as previously stated. That said I have two 4x12's and two 2x12's for home use. I'm a big fan of both.

I really like my Sourmash 2061 2x12. It's oversized for a 2x12, looks like a 3/4 sized 4x12 and it sounds fantastic. Celestion V30 & a G12H30 combo.

I've had two 1x12's in the past, it's a great set up but I prefer the bigger sound of a 2x12 or a 4x12. YMMV depending on room size, etc...

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My collection of 1x12 cabs

Vox Night Train open back Greenback I added extra feet so it can be stood on end.
Hughes & Kettner TM112 sealed V30
Marshall 1974CX open back "aged" 20W Greenback I was very happy to score this one.

Bought them used for $725 US total.

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I really like my Sourmash 2061 2x12. It's oversized for a 2x12, looks like a 3/4 sized 4x12 and it sounds fantastic. Celestion V30 & a G12H30 combo.
I also have a sourmash 2061. I love it. I also like my 2x12 fender bassman cab. On another note, I have a avatar , closed back, tweed 1x12 with a neo creamback on its way.
 
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My Avatar 2x12 with Celestion G12T-75's. Removed the grey carpet and recovered in Duratex. I run a 20w hybrid and sometimes a 5w head into it. This one sounds awesome as well...

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I own a Laney 2x12 box with Greenbacks that I’ve run a few different heads through over the years and it’s never let me down sonically both live and at home
It’s killer
 


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