$25/hour minimum wage proposal rejected overwhelmingly!

[TeaForTwo]

You forgot top wrapping and pick guards, you evil bastard!

Swiss Pick Guards have been protecting the Vatican for hundreds of years. Just saying.
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[poncho]

Can't we just abolish the minimum wage already, ffs!




No more, boohoo I don't get paid enough, I can't live like this. No more snarky debates over the topic, like when people say, stupidly, I might add, why don't we raise it to a 100 bucks an hour?


Let them fight over a dollar a day, while we toil the day in our fancy suites high above the city. I don't know about you guys, but I really hate being around those people. It might sound weird, but I feel like I might catch their laziness disease or something. Plus, I really just don't like looking at them

I say we abolish the minimum wage and then with all the money we save, we build vast subterranean cities, where we can force them to live. Outta sight, outta mind. I figure this solves the homeless problem too. 2 birds one stone, and all that

Yer welcome. And yes, I should be president, now that you mention it

 

[Laggspike]

full of action!

 

[Caleb]

I make more $ than I ever imagined I would.
Yet, I'm still a broke-ass, P.O.S. by So. Ca. standards.

I'm in the same boat. If you'd have told a sixteen year old me that someday I'll be making what I make now, I'd have said, "Holy Christ, I'm gonna be rich!" Yet here I am, broke as shit.

 

[HenryHill]

Pink is the New Purple.

 

[electric head]

Heck when I was a kid I learned early in life that if I wanted something extra I was going to have to earn it myself.
We were not paid any allowance or money for good grades but if you wanted to do something extra around the house we could earn money.
I mowed lawns,delivered papers and sold subscriptions door to door(back in the days when people actually answered their doors).

I lied about my age when I was 15 and said I was 16 to get a part time job working at a big produce stand.
We were paid 2.10 an hour and he paid 10 cents over minimum wage.
We busted our ass at that place and one of the first things I was told.No matter what, only time you sit down is when you are on break or at lunch.
After the first day I was like screw that,not going back there .Next morning I got up and went back.
I learned so much about life the 2 years I worked there and it is still my favorite job.

 

[SteveC]

There are many, interacting social, political, religious and cultural factors in the equation of the worlds economy; all of them contributing to widening the gap between the "have's" and the "have not's". That gap, that left unchecked, ultimately will result in a worldwide inequity - much like (yet, far more worse than) the social gaps of centuries past.

The common element? Greed.

I fear that our children's children will live in a world, where today's 1%-99% will have widened even more. If you think it's getting ugly now… imagine that very real possibility.

"You say you want a revolution?"

 

[PraXis]

Don't worry! The regime is looking out for the American worker!

The Part of the Obama Admin. That’s Supposed to Help U.S. Workers Is Calling for More Foreign Labor | TheBlaze.com

 

[lǎo​wài]

I am happy with the place where I live...

1 driving hour to Frankfurt, or Nürnberg, or Stuttgart

Small village with less than 2000 people living here,
Supermarket, Butchery, Bakery
general practitioner, dentist,
kindergarden, basic school,
restaurants, pubs, sportsclub,
railway-station,

all within 10-15 minutes walking-distance
much more of the above within 15-30 minute driving distance

houses (new - 20 year old) can be rented at 7-10 Euro/sqaremeter
(older ones much cheaper)
building lots can be bought for 40-50 Euro/squaremeter

What's not to love here where I am ?

This is good to know. They accepting 'Muricans with Chinese wives over there?

No extreme climatic conditions here
no hurricanes, no tornados, no flooding...
sometimes a thunderstorm,
though it doesn't matter, as most houses are built with stones....

today we had 26°Celsius

Please tell me they're taking 'Muricans.

What are you crying about?

You're lucky to be living where you might get the chance to make a decent living.

Take a look around the rest of the world and see how most people have to live.

And they'll never get the chance to go to college and maybe have a better life.

Tell me about it. I had to take cash out of the bank to cover the five cases of beer being delivered tomorrow. Man, money's tight over here.

Good thing my rent's paid until 1 November. Seriously, many have no idea how poor poor can be, and I've only seen the tip of the iceberg.

One of the biggest problems with raising the minimum wage in the States say to 12 to 15 dollars and hour ..
What are you going to do with all the people making 12 to 15 dollars and hour already.
They certainly are not going to raise pay across the board to everyone.
So you will have Joe blow who lives with his parents starting his first job and knows nothing working next to harry homeowner with 2 kids making the same pay after he has been at his job for 5 years..
Not going to work

Harry homeowner is going to have to accept that he's now working for minimum wage. It's no different than the day before the min was hypothetically raised. He's still Harry homeowner making $15 an hour. Life isn't fair.

Joe blow will have a lot more disposable income; do you know what that means in a service economy?

 

[HenryHill]

There are many, interacting social, political, religious and cultural factors in the equation of the worlds economy; all of them contributing to widening the gap between the "have's" and the "have not's". That gap, that left unchecked, ultimately will result in a worldwide inequity - much like (yet, far more worse than) the social gaps of centuries past.

The common element? Greed.

I fear that our children's children will live in a world, where today's 1%-99% will have widened even more. If you think it's getting ugly now… imagine that very real possibility.

"You say you want a revolution?"

Only the rich create jobs, and only if you are going to make them richer.

This is why we should abolish all taxes on the rich, in the hope they see fit to trickle a sliver of it down to those who are paying taxes, otherwise, there is no infrastructure such as roads and bridges for them to transport their products to the taxpayers.

And who decides who is rich?
The rich do.

Why do you hate America, and it's capitalist structure?

And why do you hate those who might be bribed into creating jobs for us taxpayers?

If you don't trust the government here, go someplace where you do, and stop complaining about some foolish concept of equal burden.

 

[realjimjim]

This is good to know. They accepting 'Muricans with Chinese wives over there?



Please tell me they're taking 'Muricans.



Tell me about it. I had to take cash out of the bank to cover the five cases of beer being delivered tomorrow. Man, money's tight over here.

Good thing my rent's paid until 1 November. Seriously, many have no idea how poor poor can be, and I've only seen the tip of the iceberg.




Harry homeowner is going to have to accept that he's now working for minimum wage. It's no different than the day before the min was hypothetically raised. He's still Harry homeowner making $15 an hour. Life isn't fair.

Joe blow will have a lot more disposable income; do you know what that means in a service economy?

Low Way . . your argument has a hole in it which can be resolved easily by raising the minimum wage to $75.00 per hour.

 

[LongBeach]

I'm in the same boat. If you'd have told a sixteen year old me that someday I'll be making what I make now, I'd have said, "Holy Christ, I'm gonna be rich!" Yet here I am, broke as shit.

I just don't get it
But, I do realize it's because of where I live.
I do plan to move back to the sticks, and, take a huge
cut in salary

Overall, what I found was more $ doesn't make me happy.
That was a total buzz kill when I came to that conclusion

 

[realjimjim]

I just don't get it
But, I do realize it's because of where I live.
I do plan to move back to the sticks, and, take a huge
cut in salary

Overall, what I found was more $ doesn't make me happy.
That was a total buzz kill when I came to that conclusion

I'm thinking about moving to NYC and washing windshields for a living. The freedom thing has a nice ring to it.

 

[lǎo​wài]

Only the rich create jobs, and only if you are going to make them richer.

This is why we should abolish all taxes on the rich, in the hope they see fit to trickle a sliver of it down to those who are paying taxes, otherwise, there is no infrastructure such as roads and bridges for them to transport their products to the taxpayers.

And who decides who is rich?
The rich do.

Why do you hate America, and it's capitalist structure?

And why do you hate those who might be bribed into creating jobs for us taxpayers?

If you don't trust the government here, go someplace where you do, and stop complaining about some foolish concept of equal burden.

This bit of sarcasm highlights something that is overlooked. Wall Street banks, did at one time, exist for the purpose of putting capital to productive use.

That no longer happens. Why would it. when the wholly unregulated derivatives and securities game that's insured by AIG and guaranteed by the FED and ultimately underwritten by the US taxpayer is so much more risk free.

 

[lǎo​wài]

Low Way . . your argument has a hole in it which can be resolved easily by raising the minimum wage to $75.00 per hour.

People with no money don't buy things. Has the universe imploded any of the other times the min wage was raised? $15 an hour is 30k per year.

Will the schlep with the newly increased salary start socking the new found loot in an tax exempt Cayman Island account, or will he start buying or paying for liquor, lottery tickets, aftermarket classic car parts, ammo, gas, insurance and health services, ammo, liquor, big screen TVs, furniture, rent and bills, ATVs and jet skis, shoes for the kids, ....

 

[realjimjim]

People with no money don't buy things. Has the universe imploded any of the other times the min wage was raised? $15 an hour is 30k per year.

Will the schlep with the newly increased salary start socking the new found loot in an tax exempt Cayman Island account, or will he start buying or paying for liquor, lottery tickets, aftermarket classic car parts, ammo, gas, insurance and health services, ammo, liquor, big screen TVs, furniture, rent and bills, ATVs and jet skis, shoes for the kids, ....

So you have your "Smart Ass Detector" on today?



I don't care if they raised the MW to $1,000.00 per hour . . . nothing, i.e., N O T H I N G is gonna change . . . . not ever.

Just more of what you delineated above.

BTW, at $1,000.00/hr . . . how much would a 40 of Colt Malt Liquor cost me?

 

[PeteK]

People with no money don't buy things. Has the universe imploded any of the other times the min wage was raised? $15 an hour is 30k per year.

Will the schlep with the newly increased salary start socking the new found loot in an tax exempt Cayman Island account, or will he start buying or paying for liquor, lottery tickets, aftermarket classic car parts, ammo, gas, insurance and health services, ammo, liquor, big screen TVs, furniture, rent and bills, ATVs and jet skis, shoes for the kids, ....

People with no money buy all kinds of stuff. They just do it on credit.

 

[PraXis]

People with no money buy all kinds of stuff. They just do it on credit.

or they go to rent-a-center

 

[PeteK]

or they go to rent-a-center

Exactly! Why pay $1000 cash for a new tv when I could finance it and pay $9000 for it?

 

[SteveGangi]

This bit of sarcasm highlights something that is overlooked. Wall Street banks, did at one time, exist for the purpose of putting capital to productive use.

That no longer happens. Why would it. when the wholly unregulated derivatives and securities game that's insured by AIG and guaranteed by the FED and ultimately underwritten by the US taxpayer is so much more risk free.

What's the simple phrase?


"Privatized profits, socialized losses. Too big to fail"

The game is rigged and we're not invited to the table.