2019 Murphy Lab?

[calieng]

I know I was pretty busy with work last year but I had no idea Murphy Labs have been out since 2019? I thought they were just announced in late 2020?

Gibson Custom Shop Murphy Lab '59 Les Paul Standard Reissue Ultra Heavy Aged | Reverb

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Any opinions?

 

[BDW60]

I dunno. But all that fuss (and price) for an almost 9 1/2 pound historic? Hard pass.

 

[jenton70]

Looks like they're grabbing older unsold historics for the aging. I don't mind the weight personally but that doesn't look like 13k to me.

 

[calieng]

I was kinda thinking the same. That was a hand picked top?

Well if they sell it ok good for them I guess.

I think it was a M2M and somehow they sneaked in the Murphy Lab cert last minute maybe just to justify the price.


I need to stop window shopping.

 

[spartacus slim]

The Schaller tuners are an unusual feature - like something you might find on a celebrity replica or CC model of some specific modified ‘burst.

 

[spartacus slim]

Here’s another Murphy Lab 60th Anniversary 1959:

Gibson Custom Shop M2M Hand Selected Top 60th Anniversary 1959 Les Paul Murphy Lab Light Aged Southern Fade 8.20 lbs

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[Duane_the_tub]

Here’s another Murphy Lab 60th Anniversary 1959:

Gibson Custom Shop M2M Hand Selected Top 60th Anniversary 1959 Les Paul Murphy Lab Light Aged Southern Fade 8.20 lbs

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That one is MUCH nicer. Really sweet looking, actually. Good weight and much better price, too.

 

[spartacus slim]

Okay, I’m grading the Murphy Lab F- on this.
Does anyone else spot what’s wrong with this picture?

 

[calieng]

That one is MUCH nicer. Really sweet looking, actually. Good weight and much better price, too.

Yep. Just $600 above normal list. I guess due to M2M. But definitely nicer than the other one.

 

[markguitar]

Yes, those are 2019 model guitars but are new and were made last year! There were many 60th Annv. R9’s ordered in 2019 before the cut off date. So they were still built no matter what the time period was. I know of some not made until late 2020. so no Murphy Lab guitars in 2019.

 

[calieng]

Okay, I’m grading the Murphy Lab F- on this.
Does anyone else spot what’s wrong with this picture?

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Honestly I was going to say the belt sander wear mark on the back of the body.....oh well one persons defect is another persons relic I suppose.

 

[Subterfuge]

Okay, I’m grading the Murphy Lab F- on this.
Does anyone else spot what’s wrong with this picture?

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serial number ??

 

[Subterfuge]

tuners ??

 

[calieng]

Turns out there were a bunch of Epiphones from 2019 that made it into the Murphy Lab last year. They should hit the streets soon at around $7k. I am getting in line for one....

 

[amorrow]

That looks like it was sent to the ML after it was already finished to 2019 specs. Pics aren’t great in that listing, but from what I can tell that finish looks nothing like the 2021 serial ML heavy/ultra heavy aged. The look and feel of the laquer is night and day comparing my two heavy aged MLs to my 2019 60th.

As far as tuners, there are 2021 M2M MLs with different tuners. My ‘59ri has gold Grovers and Page #1 neck...so it has some odd stuff going on but finish is consistent with my standard ‘54 heavy aged.

 

[mudface]

Okay, I’m grading the Murphy Lab F- on this.
Does anyone else spot what’s wrong with this picture?

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No original Kluson tuner screw holes.

Can't be a replica of a '59 without them.....those are '70s style Gibson branded Schaller's didn't make them in 1959....where are the damn holes??

Unless this is a replica of an artists 1959 that was re-necked in the '70s it should have Kluson tuner crimp marks on the finish and 12 extra holes. This was done with CCs....and these are supposed to be better?

Fail.

 

[Subterfuge]

good eye !!! .. I totally missed that

 

[spartacus slim]

No original Kluson tuner screw holes.

Can't be a replica of a '59 without them.....those are '70s style Gibson branded Schaller's didn't make them in 1959....where are the damn holes??

Unless this is a replica of an artists 1959 that was re-necked in the '70s it should have Kluson tuner crimp marks on the finish and 12 extra holes. This was done with CCs....and these are supposed to be better?

Fail.

Yup, that’s what I thought: no extra holes or footprint from the ‘59 correct Kluson tuners is a pretty boneheaded detail to leave off a Murphy Lab aged guitar. Would be kind of different if it was a non-aged gloss or VOS finish, or the type of reissue where they don’t drill for a pickguard. Your concept of replicating an artist’s re-necked guitar would be a good excuse though!

 

[spartacus slim]

serial number ??

That would be something else for super accuracy, but I guess they can’t really help the serial numbers considering how many they make each year...

 

[spartacus slim]

My ‘59ri has gold Grovers and Page #1 neck...so it has some odd stuff going on but finish is consistent with my standard ‘54 heavy aged.

Please tell us more about your ‘59 reissue - it sounds really interesting.

There was a thread very recently in which we were discussing whether or not M2M could do the special Page #1 neck carve if requested...