2012 std wiring wrong?

[HIghAndDry]

Ok I am toying with my new 2012 LP standard, the volume knob of each pickup is supposed to split the coils when lifted. (push pull switches) When I lift the volume knob on the bridge pickup I swear it sounds bassier. Or putting it another way. Its treblier when in normal position. I am wondering if its wired backwards.
Ok I have been messing with this as I type. the freaking bridge tone control when lifted up, puts the bridge pickup on when in the neck postion!!!! That is supposed to just bypass all the circuitry and go right to the jack. this thing has got to go back.
The bummer is I have already put the pickguard on so they probably wont exchange it!!!

 

[MeKevin]

The bypass automatically selects the bridge pickup.

Gibson.com: Gibson Les Paul Standard

 

[Slashperryburst]

Seems like this is really causing a lot of confusion. Gibson should include a more detailed user manual.

 

[HIghAndDry]

The bypass automatically selects the bridge pickup.

Gibson.com: Gibson Les Paul Standard

Ok I see that now. but it still doesnt seem right to me The bridge pickup is brighter when the control is normal (not pulled out) when I pull it up it gets bassier. that just dont seem right

 

[HIghAndDry]

Seems like this is really causing a lot of confusion. Gibson should include a more detailed user manual.

Yeah the manual I got was like a generic all models manual. not very clear at all.

 

[MeKevin]

I dunno, might have something to do with the fat tap. Split, it's supposed to have around the same output, but this could not be the case, it might not be as hot.

Are you playing with any gain on the amp, or clean?

Are you sure all the other knobs are in the down position when you split the bridge pickup?

 

[onegoodtrick]

The bypass automatically selects the bridge pickup.

Gibson.com: Gibson Les Paul Standard

What he said.That's my read on it.
I've been where you're at with other gear when just getting powered up for the first time.I'm so wound up all manner of gremlins hop up to have their fun.Don't trip.Take a breath and step back for a minute and dig your new axe.

 

[GibsonMarshallGuy]

If you don't like it just try and return it. Don't flip out man, did the guitar come with the pg? If it did just say it was already on, I don't think it'll matter... But ya maybe it's just something you're over looking.

 

[onegoodtrick]

Ok I see that now. but it still doesnt seem right to me The bridge pickup is brighter when the control is normal (not pulled out) when I pull it up it gets bassier. that just dont seem right

The book stated something about being able to select screw pole or slug when in SC mode.Perhaps you're on the slug when you cut to SC?My bet is everything is cool in the axe and you just need to find your way through the maze.Kinda like a Boogie.Press on.Don't let it fry you up on what could be a great night.

Edit : Just re-read what Gibson provides on this and it's the neck pup that can be juggled.

 

[HIghAndDry]

I dunno, might have something to do with the fat tap. Split, it's supposed to have around the same output, but this could not be the case, it might not be as hot.

Are you playing with any gain on the amp, or clean?

Are you sure all the other knobs are in the down position when you split the bridge pickup?

I am sure they are all down. And I testing it clean

 

[HIghAndDry]

If you don't like it just try and return it. Don't flip out man, did the guitar come with the pg? If it did just say it was already on, I don't think it'll matter... But ya maybe it's just something you're over looking.

Ya my thought was if I do exchange I wont even bring the pg up and I bet no one will say squat. (it didnt come with it but unfortunately I did buy it there so its on the receipt)

 

[MeKevin]

I dunno, is your amp loud enough?

Which position is louder? Coil split or un split?

 

[HIghAndDry]

The book stated something about being able to select screw pole or slug when in SC mode.Perhaps you're on the slug when you cut to SC?My bet is everything is cool in the axe and you just need to find your way through the maze.Kinda like a Boogie.Press on.Don't let it fry you up on what could be a great night.

that could be do you have a book? I need to figure this out

 

[GibsonMarshallGuy]

Worst case, take it to a Gibson certified tech (luthier). Get it sorted out, but hopefully it's user error. Good luck, let us know what happens...

 

[HIghAndDry]

It may be that when the bridge pickup is split it shuts off the screw coil. I dont see and option for selecting one or the other with the bridge pickup. the neck pickup yes. I am reading the info on the website. I really dont like the idea of the bypass control automatically selecting the br pickup.

 

[onegoodtrick]

that could be do you have a book? I need to figure this out

I was just going off the website discription for the 2012 Std.Just got finished searching the whole freeking Gibson site for anything useful and just came up with the generic manual that comes in the case.

If you care to,line out your rig and perhaps it's downstream from the buckers.Still would bet you dollars to dogrockets it's all in there.Are you going straight in,which amp,do you generally play buckers or SC,ect.This should be a great night for you and it is,you're just having a slight niggle.

Put a picture up and we can all wow it.Sometimes Pauls like having the picture taken.That might put it in a better mood

 

[HIghAndDry]

I dunno, is your amp loud enough?

Which position is louder? Coil split or un split?

Yeah I have it loud enough to tell. the un split ( switch pushed down) is a little louder but definitely brighter. It must be brighter because when the coil is split on the br pickup, the screw coil (closest to the bridge on the br pickup) is shut off leaving the other coil (the coil closer to the neck) on alone. which is going to sound a little bassier. While there is an choose coil option for the neck pickup there isnt one for the bridge. confusing confusing but perhaps am getting it figured out
Also, with a volt ohm meter, I measured the output split and unsplit. they are virtually identical! perhaps they have devised a way to keep one of the coils in the circuit for noise cancelling purposes only when split. (in other words it doesnt pickup the strings but still acts as humbucking) I dont know. they are fairly quiet in single coil mode. But I do like the sound of the 57 classics that were in the trad plus a bit better. but i like this neck better.

 

[HIghAndDry]

All right after taking some good advice (thanks all you guys are great) I have determined that is working as it is supposed to. What really freaked me out was the bypass thing. Even when the 3 pos switch is in the neck position that bypass sends the bridge pickup and the only the bridge pickup, direct to the output jack.
after careful listening there is a bit of hum when the coils are split so that must be working properly too. and the fact that the br sounds bassier split is for the reason I stated in my last post. (that has to be it)
The burstbucker is a bright pickup!

 

[HIghAndDry]

I was just going off the website discription for the 2012 Std.Just got finished searching the whole freeking Gibson site for anything useful and just came up with the generic manual that comes in the case.

If you care to,line out your rig and perhaps it's downstream from the buckers.Still would bet you dollars to dogrockets it's all in there.Are you going straight in,which amp,do you generally play buckers or SC,ect.This should be a great night for you and it is,you're just having a slight niggle.

Put a picture up and we can all wow it.Sometimes Pauls like having the picture taken.That might put it in a better mood

Here some photos I put them on another thread too. they arent the greatest

 

[HIghAndDry]

Or putting it another way. Its treblier when in normal position. I am wondering if its wired backwards.
Ok I have been messing with this as I type. the freaking bridge tone control when lifted up, puts the bridge pickup on when in the neck postion!___________________________
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i see you quoted my earlier post look at my last couple. I think I have determined why that is the case.