2012 Plaintop Bavarian Makeover

Limehouse Blues

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A couple of days ago my 2012 Plaintop R0 arrived in Oberstdorf (thank you DHL - 24 hours door to door). I've admired Florian's work on other guitars and decided it was time to give my Historic the complete Bavarian tuning - new finish, rod, board, inlays and binding. I bought it in '13 and it's a great guitar. Absolutely nothing wrong with the sound of the thing. I even like the Burstbucker pickups. It's a great weight too. Bang on 9 lbs. So my reasons for getting the makeover are mainly aesthetic. While I really like the Bourbonburst there are some things about the finish of the historics that I am none too keen on.

First, the thickness and plasticky nature of the finish. I have a replica finished in very thin, almost glass like nitro that is just a few months old. It's so much nicer than the finish on my Historic. The binding colour also drives me nuts on the R0. It really is pink in hue and looks nothing like the binding on my early 80s Tokais or my replica. The board and inlays on the Historic are also an aesthetic weak point. Mine is a low serial number 2012 and there is a chance it still has a one piece board (we will see) but the colour is uninspiring. The fret inlays are also amazingly cheap looking for such an expensive and supposedly 'premium' guitar (they're far finer on my 80 Standard).

I'm rather a fan of gently aged guitars. When I bought my R0 the neck shape was all important though and I couldn't lay my hands on any well priced VOS or aged historic with a 60 neck so it was the gloss I ended up with. As I say though, it's a gloss finish that doesn't seem likely to age in the same way that a guitar with a much thinner/less plasticky finish would. While the exact colour of the refinish remains to be determined (probably something close to the bourbon burst, maybe a tea burst perhaps) I will be asking Florian to do some subtle ageing - something at which he appears highly adept.

So, the decision to go for a makeover is mainly an aesthetic one. I have no doubt that the refinish will have some impact on the instrument's tone which will be interesting to hear. For now I leave you with some pictures of the guitar in its new temporary Alpine accommodation. As the project progresses I will post more photos.

Unless the big lottery win comes in (which seems unlikely since I rarely buy a ticket) I see no vintage burst in my future. This makeover will I hope take me closer to the aesthetic, vibe and mojo of a vintage burst. I'm already eagerly acquiring new parts to finish the look, and managed recently to score some 60s gold plated grovers that are so aged they bear a resemblance to those sported by Mr James Page.

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I'm really pleased to follow this makeover :)
 

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I am very impresssed with his work. And the cleanliness of his shop. :)
 

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Is that a showcase "wall case" you have got there? where did you find it?
I am looking for something similar.
 

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Is that a showcase "wall case" you have got there? where did you find it?
I am looking for something similar.
this is at Florian's shop. No idea where he got it. Probably made it himself I should think. It is a really cool cabinet.
 

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Suscribed.
It is going to be great!
My guitar is also at Florian's place, just waiting for it final adjustement.
I guess it will take around 2 months..
 

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Subscribed this will be cool :)
 

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Florian is quick! Hardware and board already removed. Interesting to learn it's a 1 piece 2012 board. Pics to follow. Interested whether people think I should swap pickups? Was planning to stick with the bbs as I like them and just swap covers and caps.
 

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Hardware removed

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Board removed. It was a one piece. Guitar was built in February 2012 so must have been later in the year that they started to laminate.

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Rod removed

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Neck joint looks messy. One of the worst Florian has seen

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So a reset it is. Pretty disappointing that Gibson apparently take so little care over what is supposed to be their premium line.
 

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So, one more messy neck joint...
Is there any good neck joint by Gibson these days?

The good news, is that if you already liked the guitar, it will definitely sounds better with a better neck joint;-)
 

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I just sent one to Kim at HM,

I will ask about looking at that neck joint....I have no reason to expect a sloppy job....but ...??
 

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really interested in result ... have a very low number r8 2012 myself ... and one day i will send mine also to bavaria ;-)))
 

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I'm interested to know what your SN is. For the non-laminated board question. If you don't mind indulging me?
 

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Comparison of the Gibson truss rod with its more solid looking replacement

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And the rod goes in beneath new maple filler strip

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New board looks great! The inlays are going to be gently aged.

Only a week or so in and I'm impressed with the speed of Florian's work. Great communication throughout the process too. A shame that Gibson can't get the neck joint right on such a pricy guitar but I have every confidence in Florian to fix that.

I've begun to gather together some nice looking replacement parts from the Montreux range and now need to think about pickups. I was curious to know whether the BB1 and BB2 stock pickups are potted. Florian checked and confirmed that they are indeed potted. Other pickups I have in different guitars (OX4, Bareknuckles and T tops) are all unspotted and I love the harmonic squeal they produce.

Tempted to go for another set of OX4s as they're really very good. Florian recommends the Amber Spirit of '59. Any other suggestions?
 

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