2000 Les Paul Classic 60's - Worth it?

Jflat

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Hi !

I'm recently selling a Jackson Ampworks Amp and a buyer proposed to trade in a Les Paul Classic 60's from 2000.
I always wanted a Les Paul but didn't found yet a guitar that the neck pleased me (except a R9 I played some years ago..)... I like more rounded necks and all the LP seemed more D shape
So... I have this opportunity to try this classic
Is there some Classic owners that can chime in? Are these good guitars? Whta's the diference for standards/Traditionals...
Here are some photos. In one of them it seems that between on the last three frets there are marks of filing in the fretboard...Am I seeing right?
He's asking 1900€ (negotiable).
What do you guys think?

thank you so much!

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If you liked an R9 neck, and that’s your reference for the right Les Paul neck, you will likely find a Classic neck too thin.
 

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Lots of people love their Classic's from that era. I kept mine even after moving up to a better R8. The stock p/ups aren't great and the neck is thin but they are still top shelf guitars.

I'd put the value for that one in the 1250-1350€ range. He has a plain top priced in the Plus top range.
 

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That Classic looks pretty good to me, although the fingerboard needs some oil (mineral oil) applied to it. Those look like the original ceramics pickups. I own 20 year-old 1960 that I bough new for $1,400.00, in 2000. Now on its 3rd pickup set (Duncan Seth Lovers and just received its 3rd fret dress job, it plays like a dream. Gibson was making some good Les Pauls between 1990 and 2000 with the early ones still in demand. Yours has that variegated grain as mine does, but mine is a Honeyburst. Asking price is way too high. I've seen prices ranging from $1,400 up near $2,000.

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Classics were/are nice guitars but that's way over priced if you ask me.
The les paul traditional model was practically the Standard of the 90s/2000s but with a more pronounced classic vibe going on.
From 2008 to 2018 the Standard was a les paul with many modern features.
Asymmetrical neck profile, chambered body, push pull pots for coil splitting and other options... A cool guitar if you're into that.
The Traditional had a weight relived body, then completely solid body. 50 style neck. Traditional wiring and sounds (hence the name).
For that amount I would personally try to get one of the above instead.
 

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For that much I'd roll with a new Standard. They are great guitars.
 

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I agree that you probably won't like the neck on the Classic. The new Standards or a used Traditional will likely be more to your liking.
 

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Thanks guys!

Your help was priceless.
I'll have the opportunity to try it before closing the deal. I'll have your thoughts into account!.
I'll update this post.

Cheers
 

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That Classic looks pretty good to me, although the fingerboard needs some oil (mineral oil) applied to it. Those look like the original ceramics pickups. I own 20 year-old 1960 that I bough new for $1,400.00, in 2000. Now on its 3rd pickup set (Duncan Seth Lovers and just received its 3rd fret dress job, it plays like a dream. Gibson was making some good Les Pauls between 1990 and 2000 with the early ones still in demand. Yours has that variegated grain as mine does, but mine is a Honeyburst. Asking price is way too high. I've seen prices ranging from $1,400 up near $2,000.

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Man! that's a great looking guitar!!
 

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I've got a 2013 I like it quite a bit. Had become my #2 before Covid hit.
 

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I’m the owner of about a half dozen Classics from 91 to 2001. Although I understand everyones concerns about the ‘skinny’ neck, Gibson beefed up the size (depth) of the Classic neck over the years, and the 2000-2001 necks are fatter than the super skinny 91s.

Later Classic necks are (gasp!) closer to R9 dimensions than you might imagine. Not quite there, but close.

I suspect some of the opinions regarding neck size on this site are based on hearsay and reputation. I have directly compared R9, Classic from 1991, and Classic from 2001 necks, and while all different, the 01 sits comfortably between the two.
 

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That Classic looks pretty good to me, although the fingerboard needs some oil (mineral oil) applied to it. Those look like the original ceramics pickups. I own 20 year-old 1960 that I bough new for $1,400.00, in 2000. Now on its 3rd pickup set (Duncan Seth Lovers and just received its 3rd fret dress job, it plays like a dream. Gibson was making some good Les Pauls between 1990 and 2000 with the early ones still in demand. Yours has that variegated grain as mine does, but mine is a Honeyburst. Asking price is way too high. I've seen prices ranging from $1,400 up near $2,000.

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That’s badass.
 

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I’ve been keeping an eye on prices for early Classics recently, and the price being asked, given the axe is in Europe, ain’t half bad. Those who still think there are ‘tons’ of guitars out there for USD 1400 are wrong, the market has moved on. 1900 Euro seems like an ok starting price. The fact that he’s willing to negotiate is a good sign, show up with cash and be serious, you’ll get a fair price I think. Good luck, and keep us posted.
 

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I’ve been keeping an eye on prices for early Classics recently, and the price being asked, given the axe is in Europe, ain’t half bad. Those who still think there are ‘tons’ of guitars out there for USD 1400 are wrong, the market has moved on. 1900 Euro seems like an ok starting price. The fact that he’s willing to negotiate is a good sign, show up with cash and be serious, you’ll get a fair price I think. Good luck, and keep us posted.

yea the prices really are going up, that’s why I just figured I’d buy 2 Les Paul’s this year.... I heard next year the prices are going up a lot because of materials are getting expensive due to pandemic.
The used market is ridiculous right now... I was looking for a cheap satin finished Les Paul and every one wants 1000-1200 for faded studios.

last night I saw a LPJ on reverb for 600 and the guy wrote in description “I don’t know why people are listing these for so much” I wanted to buy his guitar just for that description.

right now the LP standard at 2500 is a bargain imo
 

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I bought a Classic new precisely because I wanted the 60's slim taper - if you don't like a thin, shallow neck this is not for you. Besides that they are very good guitars, love mine....
 

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That’s badass.

Thank you. When that Classic went to my tech for its 3rd dressing work 3 months ago, several people who stopped by his workshop, wanted to know if it was for sale. I guess if I were ever to offer it for sale, there may quite a few interested. The color is a darker Honeyburst, but in direct sun (as pictured) it glows bright not unlike the Sun and those yellow inlays flash an iridescent green, every now and then. The cam “wink” at you.

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