1977 & 1979 Gibson Les Paul Custom Questions

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I bought a 1977 Gibson Les Paul Custom new when I was a kid in high school. I actually got my first bank loan to pay for that guitar.

Kept that Les Paul until about ten years ago when I sold it. Sellers remorse has set in bad, and I looking to purchase either another 1977 or a 1979 Les Paul Custom this week.

Curious if one year (‘77 VS ‘79) is better than the other?

I recall that my ‘77 Les Paul had a pancake body. I don’t believe that the ‘79 has the pancake body which I think is a plus. Any thoughts either way?

Also did the ‘77 and ‘79 Les Paul Custom’s have the standard size headstocks? I don’t recall the headstock size on my ‘77 Les Paul Custom.

Only asking because I once owned a Gibson Les Paul Classic Custom that had a larger headstock and I was not a real fan of the larger headstock.

Thanks a head of time for your comments.
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pancake was phased out in 76

headstocks were all big during that time.

I can put 10 of the "best-know-it-alls" members of this forum in a room and play 5 different LP's.....

pancake, solid, swiss cheese, modern weight relief, chambered, etc. etc. and not one of them could identify, by sound which was which with any regularity.

Find one that plays well for you and don't worry about the rest.
 

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pancake was phased out in 76

headstocks were all big during that time.

I can put 10 of the "best-know-it-alls" members of this forum in a room and play 5 different LP's.....

pancake, solid, swiss cheese, modern weight relief, chambered, etc. etc. and not one of them could identify, by sound which was which with any regularity.

Find one that plays well for you and don't worry about the rest.
Thanks,
Mine was truly a pancake body guitar, I guess my ‘77 Les Paul was in reality was a ‘75 or ‘76 Custom. Never checked the SN’s back then, and I assumed it was a ‘77, since that was the year that I purchased it new. The guitar is currently in my avatar.
 
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Early '77s were pancake bodies,.... the serial numbers were decal.... the later '77s (around july and later) that had the normal stamp numbers were solid one piece bodies though the tops could be two or more pieces most were 3 piece but could be more.
 

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some were, but not all....there are 77's with decals that are not pancake.

I have never seen a 77 with the "new" serial numbering system with pancake, though.
 

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Yup,..solid one piece bodies did come in before those decals were used up...... the time frame i don't know... since those decals don't give any dates..... original pot numbers and T-Top dates can only get you so close.
 

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I’m also looking at a R7 at the same time.
 

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I too had a '77 that I bought new, in 1977. Kept it for 22 years before I let it go and selling it is one of the biggest regrets of my life. Bought another '77 in the early 2000's and kept that for a while...Have a '79 now.

Agree with some of the earlier sentiment - there isn't really much difference between them. They all play and sound fantastic and are built like battle-axes. Find one that is in the condition you want and feels right and go for it.
 

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Hello Everyone, I just purchased a 1979 Les Paul Custom and I wanted to authenticate the pickups. They are Dirty Fingers, however, I am unable to find any information on authenticating these. Any help would be fantastic. The ashtray appears to be untouched. But someone good with a soldering iron could easily fake my ignorant eyes.

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Hello Everyone, I just purchased a 1979 Les Paul Custom and I wanted to authenticate the pickups. They are Dirty Fingers, however, I am unable to find any information on authenticating these. Any help would be fantastic. The ashtray appears to be untouched. But someone good with a soldering iron could easily fake my ignorant eyes.

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These are late model Dirty Fingers... the originals were not branded on the coil bobbin. Two sets of adjustable pole screws is a DF feature. 1979 LP Customs were not equipped with DFs.
 

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Tim Shaw was winding Dirty Fingers before he was winding his PAF's.......Just useless information, but information, all the same.

Correct, these did NOT come in that guitar.
 

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Thanks guys, I figured as much but I am ignorant in the ways of older LPs. That being said even without the original pickups the '79 was an exceptional value for the condition it is in and it gives be a bit more freedom to experiment with some different pickups. I have a set of Suhr Aldrich and Thronbuckers I will give a shot that have been sitting around waiting for me to finish my luthiers corner build 5 years and running.
 


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