1952 Goldtop Value

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In the march,2020 Vintage guitar magazine it shows the current values for a long knob with binding 1952 goldtop as $12,200. in poor condition and $15,800. in good condition. I'm going by memory so I may be off a little in the values but I'm wondering why those values are so much lower than listings on reverb an Gbase? What gives?
 

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Eric what do you think a 52 in average condition would generally sell for in the current market?
 

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Perhaps a better question is how does Vintage Guitars come up with their valuations. Anybody know where you can currently buy a minty 52 for 16k.
 

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'52 Les Pauls are like Gretsch guitars....hard to buy, and hard to sell.

Personally, I actually prefer them. I think they are a steal when it comes to vintage guitars, but I can't see paying over about $12K regardless of condition, because I know the obstacles to selling one.

Pay a little more for a very lightweight one if you have to.

Hope this helps!
 

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A NZ story re a '52 is..........about 28 years ago I visited our Auckland RockShop and was talking with the guys there about vintage Gibsons, the store manager then heads out the back and comes back with an old beat up case with a '52 in it. I pick it up with it's baseball bat neck, it was in reasonable nick........this is around '92 or so and I know virtually nothing about '50s LPs other than 57s- 60s. I ask what it's going for and he says NZ$6.5k(around US$4.5k back then I think). About a month later I hear from the guys that it sold to Bryan Adams guitarist(when touring NZ). The store owner made the comment 'he knew what he was looking at' when telling me about the sale.
 

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I agree with Eric's view point. I will say I bought my 1952 goldtop in 1998, all original with case for $1,265. It was converted to PAF's 20 years ago by Scott Lentz. Eric has played this guitar and it is not just a good one...it is a great one. Guitars may come and go but this one guitar will not leave my possession.
 
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A NZ story re a '52 is..........about 28 years ago I visited our Auckland RockShop and was talking with the guys there about vintage Gibsons, the store manager then heads out the back and comes back with an old beat up case with a '52 in it. I pick it up with it's baseball bat neck, it was in reasonable nick........this is around '92 or so and I know virtually nothing about '50s LPs other than 57s- 60s. I ask what it's going for and he says NZ$6.5k(around US$4.5k back then I think). About a month later I hear from the guys that it sold to Bryan Adams guitarist(when touring NZ). The store owner made the comment 'he knew what he was looking at' when telling me about the sale.
Mine has a soft V neck. My friend had two 52's and on 53 when he sold mine to me. None had a bat neck. I dont mind a bat neck but i have played 5 52's and all had similar V shape. Guess they could change from guitar to guitar though.
 

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I agree with Eric's view point. I will say I bought my 1952 goldtop in 1998, all original with case for $1,265. It was converted to PAF's 20 years ago by Scott Lentz. Eric has played this guitar and it is not just a good one...it is a great one. Guitars may come and go but this one guitar will not leave my possession.
$1,265!!!! Even in 98 thats dirt cheap. My friend bought a mint and I mean mint one in about 04 for $5,000. Great deal you got there sir. Why convert to PAF's? Just curious as the P-90's in mine absolutely ROAR. The only change I am REALLY considering is re-fret. Mine has a headstock repair so not effecting any value (not that i would ever sell it) and I gig and record with it . I can get around the frets but there are a little bit of a pain in the ass.
 

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All I know as 50s LPs go they are the most affordable for the average person-still cost a pretty penny though-lots are converted to late 50s Bursts too.
 

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hope find a 50's under $15k hopefully......or a husk i would prefer for in the $5k to $8k range

might not be realistic but i am not in a rush

setting a target date of Nov 2020 at the Philly Guitar Show

.......that gives me enough time to unload a few

but i have not sold a guitar in a few years since i became more selective...but i gotta do it :fingersx:
 

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Reverb LISTINGS are a highly unreliable source to learn actual sold prices. And reverb does not make it easy to see actual sold prices... Even within their price guide. Your better bet is the vintage guitar price guide.

Reverb LIST prices are generally quite high.... Generally... With exceptions regularly.
 

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Eric has played this guitar and it is not just a good one...it is a great one. Guitars may come and go but this one guitar will not leave my possession.
You got that right...If I had "rock star" coin I would be trying to pry that guitar out of your hands with buckets of cash! LOL!
 

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Reverb LISTINGS are a highly unreliable source to learn actual sold prices. And reverb does not make it easy to see actual sold prices... Even within their price guide. Your better bet is the vintage guitar price guide.

Reverb LIST prices are generally quite high.... Generally... With exceptions regularly.
Depends. If you check a single category of guitar (so within the same tag), you can actually see asked and sold prices.

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$1,265!!!! Even in 98 thats dirt cheap. My friend bought a mint and I mean mint one in about 04 for $5,000. Great deal you got there sir. Why convert to PAF's? Just curious as the P-90's in mine absolutely ROAR.
It was my first conversion venture which was a complete success. This guitar came together in all the best ways possible. Under 8 lbs. totally outfitted. I don't recall what the P90's sounded like but I am not a P90's kind of player. So, bought the guitar for $1265...sold the case, trapeze tail piece, knobs, pups and harness for $1400. Conversion now has all 50's parts and a great condition 4-latch Lifton case.

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It was my first conversion venture which was a complete success. This guitar came together in all the best ways possible. Under 8 lbs. totally outfitted. I don't recall what the P90's sounded like but I am not a P90's kind of player. So, bought the guitar for $1265...sold the case, trapeze tail piece, knobs, pups and harness for $1400. Conversion now has all 50's parts and a great condition 4-latch Lifton case.

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Who did the Conversion?

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It was my first conversion venture which was a complete success. This guitar came together in all the best ways possible. Under 8 lbs. totally outfitted. I don't recall what the P90's sounded like but I am not a P90's kind of player. So, bought the guitar for $1265...sold the case, trapeze tail piece, knobs, pups and harness for $1400. Conversion now has all 50's parts and a great condition 4-latch Lifton case.

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