$100,000 Les Paul R8

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I had Leo reissue I bought back in 1983, and sold it because I had to and regretted ever since. I loved that guitar but it was nowhere as good as my '14 R8s,.... not even close.

The Guitar Trader models of the same period where better guitars. The very early Guitar Trader LPs had real New Old Stock PAFs installed.
Were they NOS PAFs or just “pulls” from other vintage Gibson’s? That’s the story I’d read somewhere.
 

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Were they NOS PAFs or just “pulls” from other vintage Gibson’s? That’s the story I’d read somewhere.
From what i remember the PAFs that were used was "found" as NOS,....I don't believe they were "pulled" from other instruments but anything is possible. There were a very limited number of these PAF Guitar Trader LPs produced, i would think that these instruments would be of a higher premium than this $100K S&T version. Infact all these early reissues were built with the same specs and the only difference was the location of the Les Paul Model silkscreen on the headstock, the Leo's Music version being the closest to the Gibson inlay. Some had a engraved TRC. Non are worth a $100K. But hey,...I would still want my Leo back.......:D
 

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From what i remember the PAFs that were used was "found" as NOS,....I don't believe they were "pulled" from other instruments but anything is possible. There were a very limited number of these PAF Guitar Trader LPs produced, i would think that these instruments would be of a higher premium than this $100K S&T version. Infact all these early reissues were built with the same specs and the only difference was the location of the Les Paul Model silkscreen on the headstock, the Leo's Music version being the closest to the Gibson inlay. Some had a engraved TRC. Non are worth a $100K. But hey,...I would still want my Leo back.......:D
I seem to recall the NOS story or at least an ad from Guitar Trader that mentioned the first 16-20 or whatever 59 Standards would get real PAFs. Because they didn’t say for sure, I assumed they were NOS myself until I got into an argument with some know it all on the Les Paul forum who had toured the Kalamazoo plant in the 70s and new for a fact there was NEVER any unused PAFs hiding anywhere that someone could have found by accident or otherwise. Gibson didn’t make aftermarket pickups in the PAF era etc so, IDK. Maybe they were NOS PAFs in those cool axes!
 

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Weird stubby horn on it.
Didn't know the original 58s has 3 piece maple necks....
 

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Weird stubby horn on it.
Didn't know the original 58s has 3 piece maple necks....
That is a one piece mahogany neck, but the tuner placement is wonky as hell. The D string tuner is way inside compared to the G string tuner, the G string is literally laying on the B string tuner post while the D string has a gap way off the A string post, the back side shows how they are way off.:hmm:
And i don't remember that gibson used the open b and open o Gibson inlay in 1980 even on the re-issue models produced in this era had the typical Norlin style close b and o inlay.

Edit: I was wrong, this Wallace does in fact have the correct Gibson Logo inlay,..learn something new every day:facepalm:
 
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Nice guitar for sure. I do have a Bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell for half that price though. :cheers2:
 

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Just because it’s rare doesn’t make it valuable, price aside a good 70s les paul is slightly more common than a rainbow unicorn.
 

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From what i remember the PAFs that were used was "found" as NOS,....I don't believe they were "pulled" from other instruments but anything is possible. There were a very limited number of these PAF Guitar Trader LPs produced, i would think that these instruments would be of a higher premium than this $100K S&T version. Infact all these early reissues were built with the same specs and the only difference was the location of the Les Paul Model silkscreen on the headstock, the Leo's Music version being the closest to the Gibson inlay. Some had a engraved TRC. Non are worth a $100K. But hey,...I would still want my Leo back.......:D
Regarding the Guitar Trader '59 Flametop, the deal was "if you order by December, (I'm assuming 1981) you could have real vintage parts, subject to availability" According to the specs the first 15 orders received actual PAF humbucking pickups. Correctly - sized pickup rings were supplied by Larry DiMarzio. Most Guitar Trader Sunbursts featured Tim Shaw PAF replicas.
 

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Wow. Prices have really gone up so I’ve decided to list my antique washtub with a genuine wire and wood post for 10,000.
 

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The white car in the add is definitely a Porsche 911 with a 959 body kit. A real 959 is worth something north of $1,000,000.
Looks like a 1977 porsche 930 with a very early 959 body kit manufactured before the 959 was released but with a later 959 style bumper.

The clue is the "gruppe B prototype" mirror and what looks like serious wheel spacer thickness to get the 959 offset wheels to work on the 930.

From the looks of that rear rotor, it hasn't been driven for a very long time and likely endured "the flood".

I wonder if this guitar got wet?
 

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Awful color for the top.... Personally, I think a nice Teaburst would have been nicer.
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the guitar was a special dealer order for a more accurate , at that time, Les Paul, other dealers ordered them also. Strings & Things, Jimmy Wallace, Leo's Music and Norman Harris. Strings & Things ordered four runs of six, from Kalamazoo between 74' to 1978 .. vintage finishes were done by Tommy Stinson ... retail, new, in the seventies was ..... $1,500.00 beautiful wood, but overall probably a lot less accurate then a 2016 True Historic.
I am blessed to own a '83 Leo's guitar. Had a semi-serious offer of $10,000, but that was 20+ years ago, before there was a "Historic" series. Realistic price now? I say $4500-$6000. Just an opinion....and opinons are like a**holes.....some are bigger and stinkier than others!! LOL.
 




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