1/4 mile times - 60/70s muscle vs newer economy cars?

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I have a vague recollection of someone posting a table that listed a bunch of cars from the 60s through the 2000s along with horsepower/torque and possibly 1/4 mile times.... I think it was in one of the Tesla threads but my search has been fruitless.

Anyone got a copy of that table or a link to the thread?

If memory serves it showed that some dog of a car (Pontiac Aztek maybe?) had a quicker 1/4 mile than some of the revered muscle cars from the 70s.
I'd like to find a copy of it to show to a fellow gearhead at work... see if it dashes his illusions of the greatness of vintage muscle cars as much as it did mine :)
 

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Nope, not in that one. Sorry. Yeah I remember it.
 

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My brother-in-law's 1970 Dodge Coronet R/T (440-4V, 375 hp) bought new and still has, ran high 12s - low 13s. Not too bad for big ol' B-body Mopar.
 

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One factor - the street tires in the 60s and 70s were way down on grip compared to today's tires. The suspensions of old also had a harder time putting and keeping the power connected.

SAE HP figures were also revised in '72 I think.

We are in the real muscle cars days now.
 

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They could go like stink, but the handling and braking... stunk.
Totally agree with you but.... the chart that was posted (if memory serves) kind of showed that a bone stock Aztek (?) Had a better quarter mile time than a big Block Chevelle (or something similar).
I don't recall the specifics but it was a bit of an eye opener.
 

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Found that one in my search but...
The one I'm remembering had a bunch of modern stuff that we'd generally consider econo box dogs.... but they were quicker than the big boy icons from the muscle car era
 
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Totally agree with you but.... the chart that was posted (if memory serves) kind of showed that a bone stock Aztek (?) Had a better quarter mile time than a big Block Chevelle (or something similar).
I don't recall the specifics but it was a bit of an eye opener.
Oh yeah. They say they don't build 'em like they used to. Good :D A 2020 Civic Touring Sedan will out corner the best handiing cars of the '70s, the best of which was a '73 Spitfire, no American cars in the top ten.
 

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I have a vague recollection of someone posting a table that listed a bunch of cars from the 60s through the 2000s along with horsepower/torque and possibly 1/4 mile times.... I think it was in one of the Tesla threads but my search has been fruitless.

Anyone got a copy of that table or a link to the thread?

If memory serves it showed that some dog of a car (Pontiac Aztek maybe?) had a quicker 1/4 mile than some of the revered muscle cars from the 70s.
I'd like to find a copy of it to show to a fellow gearhead at work... see if it dashes his illusions of the greatness of vintage muscle cars as much as it did mine :)
Wasn't the Pontiac Aztec the "Walter White car" in Breaking Bad?

Yeah, I don't see that whipping butt on my '55 I had built up in high school.

55 Chevy businesss coupe.

427 out of a 71 Vette, and the M22 Muncie 4 speed transmission, plus the dual plate clutch that went with it.

57 Pontiac rear end with 488's and a locker.
 

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That list is suspect. I have been reading up on the Boss 429 Mustangs due to the Paul Walker auction. Ford advertised something like 14.1 in the 1/4, Motor Trend tested and got 14.5. No way is 13.1 accurate in street trim. Maybe on slicks.
 

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Wasn't the Pontiac Aztec the "Walter White car" in Breaking Bad?

Yeah, I don't see that whipping butt on my '55 I had built up in high school.

55 Chevy businesss coupe.

427 out of a 71 Vette, and the M22 Muncie 4 speed transmission, plus the dual plate clutch that went with it.

57 Pontiac rear end with 488's and a locker.
What, are you Bob Falfa?
 
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it's traction control systems changed the game and not HP improvements.

weight ratios dropped as well.

there's a version of the Toyota Rav 4, the six cylinder version that absolutely stomps old muscle car numbers. someone here has one, I remember them chiming in the last time we had this discussion.

crazy power to weight ratio on that RAV4.
 

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What, are you Bob Falfa?
I thought I was in High School.

The very inspiration for my 55.

The 55 was my early graduation present. We all got a secondhand car or a trip somewhere. A whopping $500 bucks for the car.

I knew a guy in HS, Al Stone. His father owned Cherry Auto Wrecking. I asked him to tell me when a good big block chevy motor came in. Some idiot had wrapped his vette around a tree. I got the motor and trans for $250.

The racing fabricator that lived across the street and down the block helped me put it in. I got the motor mount from the JC Whitney catalog. Had to ding the firewall with a sledge for the rear of the valve cover to fit.

The car promptly blew up the rear end, first time out.

I combed the papers for a replacement. Found a rear end set up for gas drag door-slammers in Sunland, CA. Set up for 55, 56, 57 chevys. Man across the street helped me with that too.

Ran it at bracket races a while after high school. Then sold it as I went off to college.
 


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