007 Fans: Who's next?

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Taron Egerton, could work (Lead in Kingsman Movies), though he is in a similar franchise

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All these re-iterations of James Bond are starting to grow thin. What people EXPECT from THEIR Bond is becoming diverse. I think that they should start introducing the other 00 characters and expand the franchise. A Cinematic Universe that is already created. Now you can diversify to your hearts content. Just make an interesting character that IS NOT James Bond.
The thing is, the Bond character is from a series of books and, at least for me having read some of them, there's a certain expectation of staying pretty true to the original character. If you're not going to do that, then create a new character and new story but don't call it a James Bond film. That's the problem with the film industry these days - the slap a known name or franchise on anything whether it's close to being worthy of being even related to that name/franchise.

I see what you're saying but, aside from M, Q and Felix Leiter (who is CIA), I can't think of many other characters that could carry a full story or at least be interesting enough to draw a crowd.
 

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He looks like he's barely out of high school. I think you need someone more mature looking in the role.
Not if you went back to his start as a reboot. New agent, new double o, etc.
 

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Not if you went back to his start as a reboot. New agent, new double o, etc.
If you went the reboot route, sure. I don't know though... I really like the reboot of the Star Trek franchise, but I don't have much interest in watching Bond as a newbie unless the beginning skims over training, etc. and gets right to putting him in the thick of things on a mission.

I still think that guy has way too much of a baby face though.

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If you went the reboot route, sure. I don't know though... I really like the reboot of the Star Trek franchise, but I have much interest in watching Bond as a newbie unless they beginning skims over training, etc. and gets right to putting him in the thick of things on a mission.
That was what I was thinking.
 

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Not if you went back to his start as a reboot. New agent, new double o, etc.

Exactly.

In the last few posts, suggested representations of Bond have ranged from raw recruit to director of intelligence. Those depictions, and everything in between, are possible.
 

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Exactly.

In the last few posts, suggested representations of Bond have ranged from raw recruit to director of intelligence. Those depictions, and everything in between, are possible.
They might be possible, but are they really sticking to the character? If not, call it something else.

And, I've been thinking about this since my last post referring to reboots. The Star Trek one worked out well because the script and the actors playing the characters were done very, very well - especially the actors' portrayals. But is this reboot stuff really necessary? I understand that the film industry is a business and needs to make money, but there seems to be too much relying on established brands and franchises.

Why not write a story and make a movie about a character who isn't Bond and is a raw recruit or director of intelligence of some other spy agency? I like to see Bond out in the field getting laid and beating the crap out of bad guys, not barking orders into a phone.

Expectations.
 

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Maybe we gotta be open-minded? I never thought I'd ever think about blamming Aunt Mae.
 

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They might be possible, but are they really sticking to the character? . . .

The essence of a character doesn't depend on his or her age or career status. And Casino Royale was awesome because it told the story of Bond's character, as opposed to taking his pre-established character and running with it.

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there seems to be too much relying on established brands and franchises.

I completely agree with you here. I'm tired of 70-year-old action stars.
 

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The thing is, the Bond character is from a series of books and, at least for me having read some of them, there's a certain expectation of staying pretty true to the original character. If you're not going to do that, then create a new character and new story but don't call it a James Bond film. That's the problem with the film industry these days - the slap a known name or franchise on anything whether it's close to being worthy of being even related to that name/franchise.

Thanks Rich, you also made my point for me :thumb:

There's been 8 Bonds in 26 movies and one TV program (if you include all live action portrayals), they all have one thing in common, and it's not the clothes they wear, the car they drive or the nationality on their passport.

There's a fan theory out there that all the different Bonds are actually all different agents who use the "James Bond/007" code name. If the producers want to legitimize that theory, I support that, and then anything goes. But as it is, Bond is an established character, and has been for 64 years, there is some sort of tradition and legacy. And if not, what's it all about? :dunno:
 

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The essence of a character doesn't depend on his or her age or career status. And Casino Royale was awesome because it told the story of Bond's character, as opposed to taking his pre-established character and running with it.



I completely agree with you here. I'm tired of 70-year-old action stars.
Casino Royale was awesome and I enjoyed the background story within it, but the film was still Bond off in an exotic location, being slick, getting laid and whuping ass. I'm all for back story, but I still want all of those elements in a Bond film, not a film that is an entire side trip.
 

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Thanks Rich, you also made my point for me :thumb:

There's been 8 Bonds in 26 movies and one TV program (if you include all live action portrayals), they all have one thing in common, and it's not the clothes they wear, the car they drive or the nationality on their passport.

There's a fan theory out there that all the different Bonds are actually all different agents who use the "James Bond/007" code name. If the producers want to legitimize that theory, I support that, and then anything goes. But as it is, Bond is an established character, and has been for 64 years, there is some sort of tradition and legacy. And if not, what's it all about? :dunno:
That's an interesting theory and, yeah, I agree that Bond is timeless and ageless which is why I can't see the need for deviating into something else.
 

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Casino Royale was awesome and I enjoyed the background story within it, but the film was still Bond off in an exotic location, being slick, getting laid and whuping ass. I'm all for back story, but I still want all of those elements in a Bond film, not a film that is an entire side trip.

and if I recall correctly, that backstory isn't in the Casino Royale book, it's basically just him starting off on a mission. I like it when the movies are just stand alone adventures. I think with the Craig movies, they put too much time into Bonds ongoing character struggle. I just want to see a bunch of random missions.

The main thing I liked about Spectre was how much like Skyfall it was. The main thing I didn't like about Spectre was how much like Skyfall it was. They were both about Bond more than the villian, and in Spectre they severely under used the actor and character of Blofeld. I guess we'll see him again in the future though?
 

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I think Jason Statham would be a kick azz bond.
I'm a fan of Statham's acting ( not all his work...!)
But as a Bond?
Absolutely not.
No way.
Not ever.

Nor Tom Hardy.

Idris has been in the frame for that DJ for years.
I hope he puts it on.
Think he will bring something to the role, without taking away from where Craig's brought it.

I would also like to see Craig keep doing it.
But I doubt that's going to happen after 25.
 

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Idris has been in the frame for that DJ for years.
I hope he puts it on.
Think he will bring something to the role, without taking away from where Craig's brought it.
A black Bond would be something different (in the books, Bond is described as having blond hair but the only Bonds so far that came close are Craig and Moore, the rest had dark hair) but Elba certainly meets all the criteria in my mind - the right age, good looking, suave, he can crack a joke and you believe he can whup some ass.
 

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