Wiring Library

[jonesy]

Within the same humbucker, series/parallel refers to the way the coils of the humbucker are connected to each other.

If the coils are split, it means one of the coils is shorted to ground, therefore off the circuit. So, theoretically there is nothing to achieve by changing the way the two coils are connected when one of them is off.

Hope this sheds some light.

I know what series/parallel and split coil mods are.

The thing is he wanted to be able to do both with push pulls (on/on) vs using the mini toggles (on/on/on)

 

[Raz59]

I know what series/parallel and split coil mods are.

The thing is he wanted to be able to do both with push pulls (on/on) vs using the mini toggles (on/on/on)

Well, he can (if I understood what he's trying to achieve, that is). And what I was trying to say is that he can put one coil in series or in parallel with a dead one if he really wants to, but sound-wise it's supposed to be the same thing (redundant). Or hell, who knows, he might end up finding a new tone because the electric current does some weird circuit, in audio, some things that are considered irrelevant seem to make differences

 

[will c]

Well, he can (if I understood what he's trying to achieve, that is). And what I was trying to say is that he can put one coil in series or in parallel with a dead one if he really wants to, but sound-wise it's supposed to be the same thing (redundant). Or hell, who knows, he might end up finding a new tone because the electric current does some weird circuit, in audio, some things that are considered irrelevant seem to make differences

Thanks for your input Raz.

What I'm NOT trying to do is have a split coil and trying to run it in parallel. I think that would be impossible since you need two pickups (or anything for that matter in circuits) to run in parallel.

What I AM asking above is if I can have an either/or on the same guitar using just push/pulls. For example....neck tone pot push/pull controls series/parallel operations and the neck volume pot push/pull controls split coil operation. Again, not to be run at the same time. The only reason I'm exploring this is because I heard from someone on this site awhile ago that a parallel HB sounds similar to a split coil HB but with the added benefit of hum cancelling. This person also said that they do sound different. I just thought I could get both and that I would ask for input since I'm not a circuits expert.

Thanks guys,
Will

 

[will c]

Sorry for all the questions guys, but I'm exploring my tonal possibilities with four conductor pups. Plan your work and work your plan right?

Anyway, tell me if this is possible with four push/pulls....

Individual series/parallel switching (takes two pots)
Master coil split (takes one pot)
Phase reversal to put the neck out of phase with the bridge when both pickups are selected (takes the remaining pot)

Anybody have a diagram of this if it's possible?

Thanks,
Will

 

[sixstringstud]

Gang--

I'm trying to wire a guitar currently with 2 humbuckers, 1 volume, 1 tone, and a 3 way switch, and I am trying to replace the volume with a push/pull to get split coil sounds from whatever humbucker is selected. My new pickups are 4 wire.

I am aware that this should be obvious, and I am 99% sure that the below diagram is correct, but it's my first replacement and I want to be absolutely sure that this is the correct diagram. Yes?

Thanks for the assist!

 

[will c]

Gang--

I'm trying to wire a guitar currently with 2 humbuckers, 1 volume, 1 tone, and a 3 way switch, and I am trying to replace the volume with a push/pull to get split coil sounds from whatever humbucker is selected. My new pickups are 4 wire.

I am aware that this should be obvious, and I am 99% sure that the below diagram is correct, but it's my first replacement and I want to be absolutely sure that this is the correct diagram. Yes?


Thanks for the assist!

Hi Six,

It's correct only if the color code of the pickups you're using for replacement are the same as Seymour Duncan's. Otherwise, you'll have to identify north start and finish, and south start and finish. Here's another one that might be helpful....

Mind you the tap is on the tone pot on this one, but the concept is similar. Hope this helps.

Will

 

[sixstringstud]

Hi Six,

It's correct only if the color code of the pickups you're using for replacement are the same as Seymour Duncan's. Otherwise, you'll have to identify north start and finish, and south start and finish. Here's another one that might be helpful....

Mind you the tap is on the tone pot on this one, but the concept is similar. Hope this helps.

Will

Great! That's ideal. The pickups are in the mail but they are Toneriders, and I am assuming they will have some explanation of which wires are which in the packaging.

Keep in mind I'm not physically looking at the guitar either--but once you solder the south and bare wires to the volume pot, where does the wire come from that then solders to the lower two slots of the push/pull section? Do I already have a wire like that wired from the volume pot to the post?

Hope that makes sense!

 

[will c]

Great! That's ideal.

What is ideal? The tap being on the tone pot?

...once you solder the south and bare wires to the volume pot, where does the wire come from that then solders to the lower two slots of the push/pull section?

If the tap is on the volume pot like on your Duncan Diagram, I'd just run a wire up from the pot casing as shown. Technically you can run it from anywhere that's connected to ground via the guitars jack, but the shorter the better in most cases as wire adds resistance.

Do I already have a wire like that wired from the volume pot to the post?

I don't know if you already have a wire from the volume pot to the post. Here's a pic of what I did once....

The wire you see connected to the bottom tabs runs down from the pot casing on top (the square part). I then stripped away enough wire to run through BOTH eyelets of the bottom switch tabs before soldering them in place. This is obviously done before I put the harness in my guitar. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Hope that helps!

Will

 

[sixstringstud]

What is ideal? The tap being on the tone pot?

Hope that helps!

Will

I was just saying that your response, and giving me another chart to compare with, was very helpful.

I haven't decided which pot to put it on, but having the map for both is helpful too.

Your illustration is exactly what I was looking for. I'm just wondering if I'm going to need to pick up more wire for that connection, and where / what gauge I should be looking at. Seeing it in actual pictorial form is much better for comparison! Thanks!

 

[will c]

I was just saying that your response, and giving me another chart to compare with, was very helpful.

I haven't decided which pot to put it on, but having the map for both is helpful too.

Your illustration is exactly what I was looking for. I'm just wondering if I'm going to need to pick up more wire for that connection, and where / what gauge I should be looking at. Seeing it in actual pictorial form is much better for comparison! Thanks!

I had some wire laying around that I had used for a stomp box at one time. I think any 18 to 22 gauge braided copper will do. But I'll defer to the others around here on that one because I'm not sure what's "ideal." If it's copper, fits, and conducts, then it should work right?! Haha.

Will

 

[TheJrAce]

I'm looking to wire up my lp and need help with a diagram of sorts. Its a 2 humbuckers guitar with the neck pickup having just 1 conducter and the bridge having 4. Want to do volume, volume, tone with 50s wiring, the bridge pup having a coil tap( using just one coil, not quite sure if its called a coil tap or split coil) switch and a 3 way selector. Found a diagram, thanks to Jonesy, of a VVT w/ the 3 way selector, but no mention of 50s wiring or a coil tap/split coil for the bridge. Already have all the parts ready, just a diagram. Can anyone help me out with wiring?

 

[will c]

I'm looking to wire up my lp and need help with a diagram of sorts. Its a 2 humbuckers guitar with the neck pickup having just 1 conducter and the bridge having 4. Want to do volume, volume, tone with 50s wiring, the bridge pup having a coil tap( using just one coil, not quite sure if its called a coil tap or split coil) switch and a 3 way selector. Found a diagram, thanks to Jonesy, of a VVT w/ the 3 way selector, but no mention of 50s wiring or a coil tap/split coil for the bridge. Already have all the parts ready, just a diagram. Can anyone help me out with wiring?

Follow this to get your 50's wiring:

Notice how the cap is connected to the tone pot and the jack tip (hot - the blue wire)? Now, for complete 50's wiring, you need to switch the tone pot's ground and cap wires.

The coil split is easy. I'll refer to this:

With the 2-conductor neck PUP you wire the hot wire to the outside lug of your neck volume (Seymour's "Black" wire). The "Green" and "Bare" wires are the shielding of your of your neck PUP. There are no "Red and "White" wires so ignore them in the diagram (for neck PUP only).

Wire up the bridge pickup as shown. Also, wire the push/pull switch as shown (ignore the pot lugs and grounding) except you only need the ground directly in line with your "Red" and "White" wires.

I hope this makes sense and helps a little. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

Will

 

[guitarver]

I'd like to see some options for a 3 pickup custom. I think isolating the middle pickup to bring in from a separate switch but including it in phase tweak, coil tap and also subject to a master tone would be good. I think having the push pull for the coil tap on that one pickup would work and possibly a mini toggle to just shut the pickup on and off?

The advantage of that for me would be to have the classic sounds of a two pickup, then a 3 pickup but also getting the Peter Green / Jimmy Page option of the phase in and out as well as the Tele / Strat sort of deal with the single coil combos.

There's got to be a schematic or two out there to cover this [a diagram would be better]. You know, a rotary switch someplace maybe a good option too as long as you put a chicken head knob on it and maybe the artiface or look of the ones they'd have on the old ES / Chuck Berry geets. You'd keep the Gibson look there that way and be able to bring in a lot of extra sound options.

Thoughts? I'm just blowing this crap out the side of my head.

If anybody has a diagram or feels up to drawing one and posting it that would be great. I may take a shot at it. IT's a good way to even supe up an Epiphone off of Craig's list or whatever [he-he]. Why not?

I'd appreciate people's opinions and thoughts on this though for sure. It'd be good to have that diagram in the canon of this page. [or variations on the 3 pickup custom beyond the bottom end crap I see all the time].

Bob

 

[maidenstrat]

Guys can anyone make me a schematic for my les paul. I have two push pulls at the tone position and when i pull the bridge one i want to go from series to parrallel, and when i pull the neck one to go out of phase.

 

[edhok78]

guys help on my wiring problem..

i would like to have a 50 wiring with independent volume controls and independent tone controls for each volume control..
and with two pickups working when the switch toggle is on the middle..

thankk.. guyss..

 

[jonesy]

guys help on my wiring problem..

i would like to have a 50 wiring with independent volume controls and independent tone controls for each volume control..
and with two pickups working when the switch toggle is on the middle..

thankk.. guyss..

Pay close attention to where the pickup and switch leads are soldered to the volume pots.

 

[will c]

edhok78
Re: Wiring Library
guys help on my wiring problem..

i would like to have a 50 wiring with independent volume controls and independent tone controls for each volume control..
and with two pickups working when the switch toggle is on the middle..

thankk.. guyss..

Pay close attention to where the pickup and switch leads are soldered to the volume pots.

+1

Read the first page of this thread and you'll get it no problem.

Will

 

[edhok78]

+1

Read the first page of this thread and you'll get it no problem.

Will

thanks guys.. it's my first time to rewire my guitar..
how about the wiring of the toggle switch???
it's confusing too.. i have a switchcraft toggle switch with 5 lugs to connect 3 on one side and 2 on the other side..
thanks once again...

 

[jonesy]

thanks guys.. it's my first time to rewire my guitar..
how about the wiring of the toggle switch???
it's confusing too.. i have a switchcraft toggle switch with 5 lugs to connect 3 on one side and 2 on the other side..
thanks once again...

If it is an actual Switchcraft jack the two lugs on the back are the hot and they go to the hot lug on your input jack, as far as the 3 on the front go the larger center lug is ground that solders to the back of your bridge volume pot and the lugs on each side of the ground lug are the neck/bridge hot leads that run to each volume pot.

This 50's wiring diagram (not independent volumes) shows vintage braided wire being used, but single strand wire can also be used as well.

 

[edhok78]

thanks sir jonesy for the replies.. i'll follow your diagrams and instructions..

one more question..is it okey if the grounds on the pots are soldered together or touching each other?

more power to this thread..
ciao!!