ZZ Top - Fuzz Tone

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  1. Mookakian

    Mookakian Senior Member

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    Hey MLP crew,

    I am trying to learn a little about ZZ Tops awesome use of fuzz and vintage tone. I cant seem to get there, not even close really.

    This track is a good example, how is the man getting that raspy fuzz then a cleaner more straight amp tone? The Foxx Tone Machine gets that cab like feel but its got too much gain to clean up, maybe i need another similar fuzz box with lower gain to throw in an A/B loop with the foxx....but what one? Interwebs points towards the Fuzz Factory.

    I have an Iby Tele copy loaded with Zhangbuckers, a les paul running empty cavities :D (wainting to drop in some MHD's in a week or so)

    Amp is a Line 6 Spider Valve which i know is the main issue, but the fender twin module is pretty nice, as are a few other clean channels.

    So whats the trick to this raspy, woody pure fuzzyness, any advice you can bring to the board is A OK with me, Eq'ing/Fuzz's/etc... :thumb:

    Gotta Dig This:D
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk7qCFH1Vq4]ZZ Top - Tejas 1976 - Ten Dollar Man - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    the start sounds like an overdriven small fender to me
     
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    I did try pushing the amp into OD with the gain down, but too peircing, roll off the highs on amp or guitar and it goes from sharp to mud.

    I do have a few boosts and Eq's, also a few OD pedals from Fulltone FD2 to Boss OD3. Even the T-rex Gristle, that gets me in the ballpark but....still missing something good, a bit too much mid honk and little of that great raspy edge Gibbons throws in there every so often :hmm:
     
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    honestly, the sound i've had closest to that was a cranked modded Epi valve jr. strange world! :D
     
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    :thumb:

    Ill bet P90's & a Tele would help me too :D
     
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    or Pearly Gates... :hmm:
     
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    Yeah, i read he uses gibsons pearly's, also found this at the gibson site
     
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    is that for more of a later ZZ Top style sound?
     
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    Early sound im pretty sure...

    Im also doing a little Vinyl mastering today, heres a little ZZ porn :D

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    i'll stick those settings into my 1959 tomorrow and see what happens :D
     
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    PLease do, keep me in the know, please please please :)
     
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    Ive got this L6 SV HD100 used only a few times (also have the combo)

    Seriously thinking of listing the head and grabbing a marshall, the hints keep on being thrown in my face
     
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    yo mook, i tried that setting and it was HARSH - trebly as hell. yuk.

    here's where my amp likes les pauls - presence 0, bass 5, mid 2, treble 8, (channels jumped) Vol-1 7, vol-2 8

    (thank god for attenuators :D )
     
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    Ok, can you try it with the volume rolled off to help smoothen it out maybe and tell me how that goes?

    Im building a A/B loop switch with bypass to run the fox and a treble boost next to an OD with an EQ to voice, that ought to get me sorta in the gritty vibe and back out without to much change

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    sorry for the poopy quality - i did it using the machine's internal mics. Which, to be honest, could have been a lot worse :D
     
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    Thanks snare, listening now :) You are too kind :dude:
     
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    Damn :shock: Thats close snare. When i said roll the volume off i mean on your axe (just in case you have'nt tried). Keep the channel volume at 7 and roll back the axe a bit, that should take some edge off the highs. No need to re-record, just a quick:

    "yeah its alot better!" or "na, its still peircing"

    Its hard to play with the mids like that huh, not forgiving at all, i think some light compression would help:hmm:. You did well mate, a hell of a lot closer to the tone than i can do with this L6 SV. I think ill be getting rid of the head in the near future and going a marshall. But we'll see what happens when i fix the loop up, f$#kin drill broke on me on the 2nd last hole, grrr....

    Thanks snare, hope the arthritis is getting better, i hear there is a tumeric extract that is working magic on that pain and inflamation, ask the pharmacy ;)
     
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    Man, those first two are really close tonewise :shock: with a bass and drummer that'd be badass :dude:

    Just that fuzzyness, he must have a fuzz or somethin....:hmm:


    Did not like the colorsound too much. Things got too bass driven at the end for me :D. But hey, im sure its different in the flesh. Id hate to be your bass player :laugh2:
     
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    that's so funny - i WAY prefer the bigger beefier tone to the middy thing. i've got a band practice on monday and it'll be the first outing for my new recording machine. you'll hear my full pedalboard going through a JCM800 then :naughty:
     

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