You can get an Epi with a Gibson headstock??? how? how? how?

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  1. Brian Butler

    Brian Butler Senior Member

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    Wow, I didn't know that. Where do you get them? Do they cost more? That's one of my only complaints about Epi is the head shape. I've personally had Epi's that rivaled the Gibsons I've owned (other than in headstock beauty) :)
     
  2. gui524

    gui524 Senior Member

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    The Epiphones with Gibsons headstocks are old epiphones ...
     
  3. dennistruckdriver

    dennistruckdriver V.I.P. Member

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    Japanese brands often have Gibson headstocks, such as Orville, Burny, Greco, Tokai, and Japanese-market Epiphones.

    (I just realized; this post I just made looks like one of Eef's posts!:shock:)
     
  4. davies

    davies Banned/Not Banned V.I.P. Member

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    Don't know myself but I'm sure my good friend Shifty won't mind me quoting him...

    "I stumbled across this site yesterday while doing some research about MIJ Epiphones. It looks like they're still selling MIJ Epiphones incl. Elites. Notice that these are the open book headstock models produced for the japanese domestic market and that they're called Elite, not Elitist. Is it possible that they only stopped making the export Elitist models with the 'tombstone' headstock?
    Does anybody have a clue?"
     
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    dennistruckdriver V.I.P. Member

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    What is the site?
     
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    leftylover Senior Member

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    you can get an old epiphone with the open book(Gibson) type headstock. these are MIJ. There are quite a few in member classifieds.
     
  8. lp_junkie

    lp_junkie Senior Member

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    Made in Japan between 1998 and 2006, yes they cost more and are far better than the regular Epi line, they are made to the Gibson size specs, will accept Gibson parts, and other than the 2 piece body and poly finish are exactly the same as the Gibsons.

    They are getting harder to find as more people seek them out and buy them up.

    They were also never for sale in the US and were made for the Japanese domestic market.
     
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    What is the easiest and best way to get a hold of some of these JDM guitars? I want to get my hands on a SG and GT elitists.
     
  10. PeteTerra

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    I have modded my epiphone headstock, the result is alright! But an old MIJ would fit fine for me too...hehe :naughty:
     
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    The open book headstock has NOTHING to do with whether or not they're called "Elite" or "Elitist" - that is a time period thing, not a headstock trait. I've had both - mine were both tombstone - and I've seen both with open books as well. The only relevant factor as to the headstock shape is whether or not they were for the USA or Japanese market.
     
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    I agree 100%, and will add that Junkie's comparison is to the top end Gibson "Historic Reissue" models - not the run of the mill Gibson USA stuff.
     
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    lifele55 Senior Member

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    mrpesca Senior Member

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    :lol:

    I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed the King of the obvious.
     
  15. -=[Shifty]=-

    -=[Shifty]=- Epi Verification Expert V.I.P. Member

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    That's what I thought too, until I found this site. They changed the name from 'Elite' to 'Elitist' after 2002, so that only the '02 models are called 'Elite', right? Epiphone introduced the 'Elitist Tak Matsumoto' in 2004, so how come that the 'Tak' on that site is an 'Elite'?
    Also, take a look at SGManElitist's new SG. It's a 2004 model and it's an 'Elite', not an 'Elitist'.
     
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    From what I remember, the Elites have been changed to Elitists somewhere in 2004.

    I have an Elite LP that is an '03. From what I have researched (not 100% sure on this) is that flame-top Elite LP's have 1-piece maple top and sometime in 2003 / 2004 when they introduced the Elitists,
    they changed it to maple with flamed maple veneer.
     
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    -=[Shifty]=- Epi Verification Expert V.I.P. Member

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    Ok, I'm not 100% sure on that either. I read somewhere that only the first year run (2002) was called 'Elite' and everything after that was called 'Elitist'. :hmm:

    EDIT: OK, I've just found other '03 and '04 'Elites'. Guess I was misinformed there. I can't find the site where I read that only the '02 models were called 'Elite' at the moment.
     
  18. SGmanElitist

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    I just sold Mazz an elite that was from 04.
     
  19. #1guitarman

    #1guitarman Senior Member

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    Ok,
    Maybe I missed somethin'...Where can I put MY puppypetters on one of these MIJ axes?...I have seen 'em on fleabay, but never thought much about it 'till I saw the Elite '50s Plaintop in Icetea burst...DONE!...Gotta have it!
     
  20. diceman

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    I had two 2004 models ("F4") - one Elite, one Elitist. The transition period lasted something like 2 years - there appears to be no rhyme or reason for it - and it is not related to the guitar's headstock, for sure. The site that you referenced has some bunk info!
     

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